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ripple cuts on a bandsaw
smitty10101 posted a topic in Machinery, Tools, Research, Reviews and Safety
Just a curious question when resawing on a bandsaw---do you get a "smooth" cut like you would on a table saw or do you get a ripple on the wood? IF you get a ripple--then what is your best guess as to the cause? Blade is a 1/2inch 4(?) tpi, guides set correctly. wood species doesn't matter. Blade is an Olsen, but it happens with off brand blades also. TIA smitty -
Just a little over a week left to reach our goal of $1800. If you haven't gotten your raffle tickets- DON'T DELAY! Our Patriot Turners- @FrederickH salvaged an oak burl and wondered whether we thought it was worth turning. You can probably guess we were 100% in favorite of doing it!! Check out more images and our members comments here What’s Coming Up- Last Friday (June 20) Cindy Drozda's Tool Talk was about cutting threads. She used a dedicated jig for her demonstration. If you missed it, she made it available on YouTube- Click the image for more information and registration For The Newbies- If you are getting ready to turn that first bowl but need some advice on mounting the blank, Mike Peace has some ideas- Sam Angelo follows up with more ways to mount turnings on the lathe- Woodcraft has a great page on their site for turning lessons. If you need ideas on awesome projects, check it out! Click the below image!! Expand Your Horizons- On your tool rack , there's the spindle gouge, the bowl gouge and the parting tool. But, what about that skew chisel gathering dust. Richard Raffan and Tomislav Tomasic have some tips, techniques and ideas for improving our skew skills! Speaking of Richard Raffan, he was recently given the 2025 Honorary Lifetime Award by the AAW- Turning Time With Easy Wood Tools- If you are in the Leesburg, VA are on Saturday, June 28, stop by the Woodcraft store and check out the Easy Wood Tools demo- https://www.woodcraft.com/pages/store/northern-virginia?srsltid=AfmBOooX-T5uZvqRSaE53QE8POZK3Az_uUkkKI4F6AiBz28zxtHegHai Another EWT shared video showing how easily a bottle stopper can be made- AQMKdmjEumcWBsnzATzgqKdhM_B42S3eIyZZnqgeYCBchGv6K1yRedL_mLQVDjURiFkIQvYOXHI2FkUFbc40B6C7.mp4 @Jordan Martindale New Turning Items- Tim Yoder recently reviewed a new CBN wheel for his grinder. Woodcraft has a sale on turning kits and supplies! Click on the image for the link to all the goodies! Highland Woodworking has the Woodslicer Bandsaw Blades on sale-. Click on the image for the link Everything Else- @Gerald asked for some images of the John Beaver wave bowls I am preparing for a demo I am doing in August. This will be a club demo for the local Cumberland Valley Woodturners. These are just some images of the bowls in various stages of development that I will use to show how they are made. The actual production of a bowl, from start to finish takes several days to allow for glue drying, coloring, sanding and finishing. The bowls are roughed out but left a bit thick so that there will be enough "meat" for gluing later in the process Special supports are made to custom fit inside the bowl to provide a way of holding it together while turning operations are done later. The supports are hot melt glued in place. John Beaver uses MDF but I didn't have any. The supports are drilled to accept dowels to maintain alignment. One of the supports is labeled to keep things aligned. The blank is moved to the bandsaw and a wave is cut in two steps. Dowels are inserted and a pressure block added to the tail stock to make sure everything stays in place and aligned. At his point, the bowl could be made with a wave that stands proud of the surface or recessed below the surface. Recessed wave waiting for the squeeze out to gel. The inside of the bowl will have the supports removed and then turned to the final thickness. The extra "meat" in the wall thickness makes sure there is enough surface for a good glue bond when turning the inside to a respectable wall thickness. Safe turning
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I was doing some rabbit hole YouTube surfing this morning and happened upon this band-saw review for Harbor Freights Bauer lineup. I've been looking for a good bench top belt grinder and in the past I have seen great reviews for the red Bauer brand by Harbor Freight, so this red bandsaw caught my attention this morning. I'm not in the market for a band-saw, but it was fun watching. I watched the entire video and I am impressed. At 600 bucks, looks like you'd be getting your money's worth as long as the longevity of the saw holds up, but I was very impressed with the well thought out features the saw has. One of the cool features I really liked was the thumb knob adjustments on the blade guides (no more Allen wrenches for that), and the knob adjustment for the table tilt. Oh ya, the table is cast iron. There's a lot going on with this saw that I would think would make a great saw in the price range. The one thing I'd protest a little about is the reviewer put a chunk of poplar through the included re-saw blade, and he called it hardwood, ya it's in the hardwood genera, but I'd like to see some oak pushed through the saw, I am sure it'd do fine though. Plus the machine sounded really smooth. If I was ever in the market for a stand alone band-saw and money is a consideration as it always is, I'd have to take a look at this one. Nice job Harbor Freight! Here's the initial review. And while I was creating this topic, this after review popped up, I have not had a chance to watch it, so it may push back on everything I just lauded about the saw, I dunno, I'm gonna watch it now.
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Band saw blades annealing too quickly.
Michael Thuman posted a topic in Machinery, Tools, Research, Reviews and Safety
1/2" x 2 AS 163" timberwolf blades from suffolk machinery. Cutting green (wet) wood 12" height by 2" thick by length of log usually 4' for shorter. After 6 to 8 passes I start to see curved cuts like the blade like it has stretched or annealed. If i ignore this next very next pass the blade binds up in the wood and stalls the machine. I am tensioning the blade per their recommendation. Flutter method. These blades are not cheap and at only 8 good passes the old pin oak will take about 30 more blades to process. Any ideas? Then blade when annealed still are very sharp. Sent email to timberwolf asking for help. -
Didn't know if there was a dedicated name brand Shopsmith bandsaw light out there, couldn't find one at the mothership, how about you guys, what have you had luck with?
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Band saw not cutting straight
Michael Thuman posted a topic in Machinery, Tools, Research, Reviews and Safety
Hi all running into a problem where I am milling up some lumber from logs" 12" high max. When cutting the logs the bandsaw deflects toward the inside. As I travel down the log it appears to get worse. What causes such an issue. Across the face I am probably out of flat by 3/4" in the middle. The tension on the saw is at or above the 3/4" mark which is what the blade is. Why is it doing this? -
Vintage FWW on which three tools are essential. Author's choice Bandsaw Jointer Wide belt sander Got me thinking. My most used stationary power tools Table saw Planer My most used portable power tools Drill Router Random Orbit sander My most used hand tools #4 plane Chisels Hand saw Measuring tools : square, tape measure, pencil, 6" rule Clamps & vise
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How fun this was! Just so y'all remember I was asking.
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@kmealy introduced us to this pattern on another topic about cutting reindeer's on a bandsaw. Here the pattern is uploaded to share. See attached. Pattern free of charge thanks to Pioneer Mountain Homestead. Reindeer Bandsawn.pdf
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Nick Engler (Workshop Companion) Resawing Logs
John Morris posted a topic in Shopsmith Pride and Use
I was just kicking around YouTube this morning watching others do their craft, from weaving, to boat building, to pottery, I really love watching others in the different fields of craft do their work. Then Nick Engler's video caught my eye, it wasn't necessarily the subject of resawing on a bandsaw, I've done that plenty of times before, but he did it on his Shopsmith bandsaw. So I watched it through, and I dunno, I just enjoyed it, his technique is very familiar to me, basically the same technique I used when I had a dedicated bandsaw, but he did teach me a few things like how to tightly band the stack of green boards together for seasoning, I liked his wire block twisty wire method, very cool. I'll let you all find his follow up video for using those boards a year later if you are so inclined, but here is his take on resawing a relatively good sized log on our Shopsmith bandsaws. Thanks Nick!- 5 replies
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I have some long wide plain sawn boards that have cupped. I plan to split the board along the maximum line of the cup. Then I should have much flatter two pieces that I can join back together. But the max line where the board is cupped the worse run in a diagonal sort of. So I drew the line and will spilt on my BS when I get the new tires installed. Then I will joint that BS edge and then see where we are. Hopefully after rejoining I can glue them back together along that jointed line and will that result is a flater board?
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Mom used to collect teddy bears and the last count that I'm aware of was somewhere north of 500. After dad passed last year, the collection had to be broken up and she's down to just an even dozen. The door to her apartment at the assisted living facility is rather bland so I built this to add to her collection. This way everybody gets to share in a bit of her hobby. This is mesquite, red oak and ERC. Approx. 9 1/2" high by 7 1/2" wide. Used my bandsaw since the crappy little scroll saw I have wouldn't even scratch the mesquite. Not the best fit-up but I can live with it since it's the first try into the intarsia world. I did learn a lot and may even try some more in the future.
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Hi I signed up here, because I saw this thread: Delta 4 Step Pulley Size/Speed/Cat.No. Charts, so it seemed like there were some folks knowledgeable here on the 1940's Delta 880's. Great forum! Looking at a 1940's 880 wood/metal bandsaw with riser block, details below. A few questions for those knowledgable with these: 1. Would you buy this modified version as a 'can only have one' bandsaw for both metal and wood? 2. On this vintage of an 880, do the riser blocks tend to make the saw more twisty/flexy, as described with more modern editions? Would be nice to be able to resaw, but don't have any projects calling for it today. 3. Any creative options for restoring the metal cutting function, which might allow me to keep the faster motor (that seems like an expensive replacement item)? It seems most bandsaws for wood run around 3000 SFPM, and original motor has this one running at 2200 SFPM, so I'm not clear if that's an issue? I hear they later went to a 6" pulley on the saw (versus the 8" it has), and maybe that is an option, provided belts are available and the OEM 4-sheave pulleys can be used. 4. If you are good at it, how quickly can blades be changed on this saw? Thanks for the guidance! Background: I'm looking to buy a bandsaw that can be used both for metal and wood, and ran across a Delta 880 wood/metal bandsaw with a riser block that has been restored (repainted, new tires | trunnions | metal blade guards, newer 15A/120V Marathon Electric motor) for $350. However, the catch is that it has been modified with a new 3450 RPM 15A/125v Motor, which raises the SFPM on wood cutting to around 3200 RPM from the stock 2200 RPM. During the process, the middle 4-sheave pulley was removed and replaced with a single-sheave pulley around 2". The motor pulley also was replaced with a 2" single-sheave pulley. When engaged, the gearbox appears to run without any unhealthy noises. It's a 2 hour drive from me to pick it up.
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Hey folks, does anyone know how to make this deer, or know where I can get a drawing of how to do this on the bandsaw? Thanks! Watch as @noor.wood.design creates a beautiful wooden deer figurine... WWW.FACEBOOK.COM Watch as @noor.wood.design creates a beautiful wooden deer figurine on the bandsaw at @workbenchconference What's your favorite...
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So I'm working on a project that has many firsts for me. First time creating mortise and tenon joints, first time using my mortise attachment for my drill press, first time using my table saw tenon jig. Creating the mortises went fairly well once I got the attachment set up properly. The tenon jig, not so much. I think I need to do finite adjustments with my gauge to make sure it's perfectly square to the miter slot. I used the table saw to cut part of the tenons and the band saw for the rest. My tenons ended up as trapezoid shapes instead of rectangles! See pictures below. This particular project doesn't require perfection, hence why I'm starting with it, but I'd like to learn how to do better for the next time around. Can anyone offer suggestions on what I did wrong and how to correct it for next time? Thanks!
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I think Gene Howe will remember a Texas Bandsaw...that Gary gave me a long time ago....well. the current motor has started having "Issues".. and will need replaced.. IF you can get the breaker in the motor to not only reset, but STAY that way..it might run for a while....but.the next time you try to start it up...run, CLICK..DOA for the day So...the hard part will be getting this motor out...last time, I needed a floor jack... I do have a "spare".. That will need cleaned up and oiled up...test drive? If you didn't have your foot on top of the motor, you'd never know it was running....nice and very quiet... We'll try it out....while I save up for either a new 1hp motor...and walk into Harbor Freight the first week in January and buy a new 14" model... First, need the Gumption to work ON the floor of the shop, to drop the old motor and lift the replacement into place.. We'll see...
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My son had an oak tree brought down it was 42" dia at base and has been split in 3' to 4' sections. I am attempting to quarter saw these shorter logs but most except my 17" band saw capacity of 12" so what I do is start trimming up the log then turn it 90 then run in through the band saw again. The challenge is the saw to cut 12" of green oak stumbles badly and stalls the motor. I found out my BS was set to the lowest speed possible. I moved it up to the next pulley and now it cuts much better. But as you can figure when Chain sawing the logs into quarters the plan is not very flat. I am considering building a bandsaw sled guided by the slot in the table. some of these quarter logs go close to 350#. and are 18" or so wide at the widest. So my sled will be 19" w x 36" long with qty 2 3/4" tables. The top table will has slots the bottom table tee nuts they set the distance to the blade and pray it will be tables enough to travel in the table groove. the top table will have a large fence with large gussets qty 3 mid and ends. My question is a sled a pain or savior? if worth it I will build it and upload pictures. As it is my sled could be off the edge of the table so do I need counterweights ? Should i be concerned that the heaviest part of the log will be the last cut . For example I have a log that has 18" wide but about 11" tall.. but I want to put the screws into the chain sawed face and slice off 1" strips until we are at 11" x 11" then I saw then turn 90 saw turn back 90 saw until I am down to nothing. The existing fence will be used when I get smaller pieces. But the sled i am thinking is the only way I can move 250# pieces of wood across the band saw. You see the chain sawed split is often slightly concave or convex and there by no very smooth sliding into and out of the BS. HOw do I lift the 250 to 300# sections with a chain lift to a table the same height as the band saw. The slot is 7" off the blade. The table is only roughly 14W" x 14"L So far the band saw has not tipped over and is not deflecting noticeably. For 3/4" finished wood i cut 5/4" for 1.5" I cut 8/4 and for 2" I cut 10/4.
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Hey guys LONG TIME NO TALK..... I know I've been away for quite some time, but I've been slowly getting back into the mix of the wood turning. I kind of took a break from it getting frustrated since I wasnt quite getting the results that I was looking for. Then real life stuff started happening bathroom had a major leak had to deal with that and other things. Then completely did an ENTIRE clean out of the shop area nope didn't get rid of a lot of my lathe stuff. I'm just now starting to buy good gouges going to try and learn how to use traditional tools this go around didn't have much luck with them the first go around. Yes still messing with scammers SO MUCH FUN doing that as well. But I have been doing some turning and I'm finding that yes even though the Easy Wood Tools are great I'm not getting the exact results that I want. For the start I've also just ordered a couple of the Ashley Harwood bowl gouges I bought a cheapo 40 dollar gouge to try and learn how to sharpen on so I don't screw up the expensive gouges. I also have my Wolverine Sharpening system should be here today 6 inch dewalt bench grinder and now yes a CBN wheel that I need to put on but I'm waiting for the sharpening system to arrive before I put that on. Also picked up a couple of the raptor gauges for the degree angles but still on the wait for those. Now I'm just trying to source out a good lumber source in my area that's close but that is turning out to be painful. They are either too far out of the way to get to by car or just don't have what I need so now been going down the rabbit hole of finding those. Hope all is well here on the forums sorry I've been away quite some time but yes I've been getting back into turning. Its been nice getting out there after a long morning of dealing with dumb scammers on the phone all morning. Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.
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Stonemasons finished the chimney today. Mimi says it looks really nice. Our Patriot Turners- Member @keithlong asked a question about carbide, negative rake bead cutters. He was curious if anyone had experience with them. Please check out his post and maybe give him your opinion. The "What's OFF Your lathe..." and "What's On Your Lathe..." topics had activity this week by @kreisdorph. He showed us some really nice bowls and one that didn't quite make it. From Off the lathe- New stuff and comments start here- And, What's On the lathe The new stuff starts here- Some good discussions in both posts. What’s Coming Up- This is the video from last Friday's Tool Talk from Cindy Drozda. It was a little different as she talked about the new "gadgets" she has in her shop. Click on the following images for links to registration and more information- For The Newbies- A couple of turning tips from Lyle Jamieson- Sam Angelo has created a new YouTube channel to help the new turner get started. It's called "Learn 2 Turn With Sam" The introduction to the channel And one of the first lessons- For a woodturner, one of the most useful machines, besides the lathe, is a bandsaw. In this video, Kent Weakley discusses Bandsaw Basics. The latest issue of Woodcraft Magazine (April/May 2024) has a great article for someone thinking about getting started in woodturning. It covers just about everything you need to consider. There's also a how-to article on turned fishing lures. Check it out at your local newsstand or in the magazine section at the local Borg. Expand Your Horizons- A couple of weeks ago, we included a video from Alan Stratton on multi-axis star ornaments. Alan has refined his process and posted this video- One of our member from a long time ago, @Charles Nicholls, used to turn light pulls. It's a great way to use up scraps and Charles sold many of his turnings. Mike Waldt shows us how he does it. New Turning Items- Even though I turn almost exclusively with carbide tools, I do have and can use traditional HSS tools. For sharpening the HSS tools, I use a Tormek slow, wet grinder. Tormek has an extensive lineup of sharpening jigs to aid in getting those razor sharp edges. Now, those styles of jigs are available from Woodturners Wonders, for other types of grinders and they are on sale! Click on the above image for the link to the sale page. Everything Else- I had some sycamore bowls roughed out and dried. Spent an hour or so this afternoon working on the closed bowl shape. The wood itself is pretty unexciting grain wise so I added some extra details to make it more interesting. Maybe tomorrow I'll get to reverse it and finish out the bottom. Used Yorkshire grit and beeswax/mineral oil for finishing. Burned rings. Beads made with EWT beading cutters. Safe turning
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I got a slew of 'em for my Agazzani but I'm looking for something in particular. I want the finest finish off the saw that I can get. Glueline quality. Do you know a blade, pitch, tooth, geometry, that is good like that? Mostly I run a 1" lennox carbide tipped woodmaster It's pretty good and I may use that but I want a finer cut, really smooth
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As you know, I've had to end my woodworking days because of age issues. I've been offered $800,00 for the Laguna 14/12 bandsaw- I feel it is a low offer. Just wondering what everyone thinks. Selling it is difficult, but I know I won't be using it again myself.
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I was perusing items for sale and came across this very interesting piece of machinery, a band saw jointer combo, it is neat, cool, and such. I was just curious, I wonder when they designed this machine, what the workflow was supposed to be? Perhaps for the small shop that wouldn't have a table saw? You could rip with the band saw and join the edges after? Hmmm. Just though I'd put it out there for discussion. What is the workflow on this duo combo?
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well here is the shop, daughter #2 showed me how, my my its so simple, lol, hope i don't forget how. pic one is from south side, you can see the re located chop saw, gonna build base cabinets in length of about 10 ft and a few uppers above. #2 is from in front of lathes, you can see the baker racks we use for parts and drying racks. also above the clean room (8x20) you can see the mezanine where i store a lot of exotic lumber. #3, is a shot from table saw to rear door, orange cabinet holds a mini mill, and to the left you can hardly see is a grill covering a metal lathe, ( i dable making old, old gun parts) #4 corner where the band saws, drill presses, you can see a groove jig , this one i got right, worked out. #5 shot from by the orange cabinet jointer, 15 inch planer and table sw in pictures #6 see old router table attached to a mech box, its gonna go away later this week, and general work space, #7 The new router able, hope to have up and running later this week now that i know how to post pics, i'll throw some up once in a while rj in az
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