Larry You asked for DC recommendations. I have looked at three that will handle most of what you need . The Shop Fox and Grizzly may be made in the same offshore factory and are very similar. Both have 2.5 micron upper bags , 1.5 hp, and CFM near 1300. The Jet with over 1100 CFM and 30 micron bag is more expensive but has a feature called Vortex . Vortex is a cone inside the DC which causes a swirling motion in the air and drops dust into the bag more efficiently but not as good as a cyclone. Now for upgrades I recommend a canister filter which will run $200 or more. Another upgrade which I have recently added to my system is the Oneida Dust Deputy at close to $300.There is also a home made vortex which I will later put in my DC blog.

 

Shop Fox 1 1/2 hp

 

Grizzly 1 1/2 hp

 

Jet 1 1/2 hp

 

All are 110 and what I would call midrange for home shops. I suggested these because the CFM is between 1100 and 1300. If you go to a 1hp at 800 CFM and around $300 you may not get enough suction for a planer or drum sander.

 

Just noticed in your first post mention of a 2hp, you will not find a 2hp that will operate on 110. Another option is to find a upgraded unit which comes with the canister (pleated) filter.

Edited October 1, 20196 yr by Gerald

How hard would it be to run additional power to the garage? What's your current power restrictions?

 

What about the Harbor freight dust collectors?

Edited October 1, 20196 yr by BillyJack

38 minutes ago, Gene Howe said:

Checked it. It's audible at 20' but, not obnoxiously so. As a comparison, my compressor and water pressure pump are much louder at the same distance. I'm sure the planer and TS, in rip mode, would be much louder, also. If you are ripping or planing, those sounds will drown out the DC. 

My DC only runs when I'm planing or using the TS or table router. The latter's screaming is way more objectionable. 

 

Thanks

37 minutes ago, Gerald said:

Larry You asked for DC recommendations. I have looked at three that will handle most of what you need . The Shop Fox and Grizzly may be made in the same offshore factory and are very similar. Both have 2.5 micron upper bags , 1.5 hp, and CFM near 1300. The Jet with over 1100 CFM and 30 micron bag is more expensive but has a feature called Vortex . Vortex is a cone inside the DC which causes a swirling motion in the air and drops dust into the bag more efficiently but not as good as a cyclone. Now for upgrades I recommend a canister filter which will run $100 or more. Another upgrade which I have recently added to my system is the Oneida Dust Deputynat close to $300.There is also a home made vortex which I will later put in my DC blog.

 

Shop Fox 1 1/2 hp

 

Grizzly 1 1/2 hp

 

Jet 1 1/2 hp

 

All are 110 and what I would call midrange for home shops. I suggested these because the CFM is between 1100 and 1300. If you go to a 1hp at 800 CFM and around $300 you may not get enough suction for a planer or drum sander.

I will take a look at these, I already decided to get a canister filter for whatever DC I choose. 

23 minutes ago, BillyJack said:

How hard would it be to run additional power to the garage? What's your current power restrictions?

 

What about the Harbor freight dust collectors?

It really wouldn't be that hard to run additional power to the garage, except for the cost. However the garage is already wired on its own circuits and trying to just use those for now and spend the money stuff that is really needed.

 

I have looked at the Harbor Freight dust collectors but I am not sure how they compare to some of the others.  Just don't want to spend money twice for the same items.

We used a few at the furniture company I worked at and they help up well including the warranty. I can't  speak for the 2019 models unless they are the same. I'm  very surprised sometimes at the HF stuff. They actually have some keepers there..

 

Unless yout really have time and patience you are going to want many plugs. The DC alone is dedicated.

 

If you really like this hobby I would atleast price out a 95 amp service box. They use to sell these as a package deal. Plus enough wire to run the distance..remember one step forward can lead to two steps back...

Be aware of a few things about the HF DCs. Now, I'm not knocking them, not even a little, they have a lot of fans that are happy with them (not the least of which is my friend Gene). But they are hardly 2 HP, closer (probably) to 1.5 HP, and they have an impeller that is some metric version of 10", where the others mentioned above mostly have 11" impellers (more air flow). 2 HP collectors generally have a 12" impeller. So when you compare or consider DCs keep that in mind. Then a lot of guys (apparently) buy the HF DC and "upgrade" it. There are various ways to do this, but often they will buy an 11" impeller from Rikon and install it...and then add the canister filter Gerald mentioned. But after you do that you might as well buy one equipped that way to start.

Edited October 1, 20196 yr by Fred W. Hargis Jr

I think I gave $200 for a jet 1.5 and it has survived since 2005. No upgrades just simple bag that came with it. Does what it is suppose to. Never saw any reason to add  extra stuff on the DC...

 

I can tell ya right now you will nevery have a dust free shop if you do any woodworking...

 

Edited October 1, 20196 yr by BillyJack

I have no issue using alot of things that come from Harbor Freight.  I actually just found an almost new HF DC for $100 on craigslist.  However just did not know how they compared to other DC.  

Have to agree with BillyJack, you will not find a 2 hp running on 110. Also HF rates that one at 1550 CFM . These figures are always exaggerated by manufactures and that has been proven many times.

I luv the Delta 1 1/2 hp Dust Collector that I added a onboard dust Seperator too. Delta no longer makes the DC, but SuperMax now does. Delta dropping that DC was a really poor decision by them in my opinion. I've been a hobbyist woodworker for about 30 years, and very mechanically inclined, I like to think that I know tools and know what I'm doing. In my opinion you won't find a better DC of that size for the money. But I think that your a ways away from getting started, so I won't go into details right now. And unfortunately my health has takin a big turn for the worse and I'm starting to put equipment up for sale, including the DC.

Edited October 1, 20196 yr by CharlieL

I by no means have a perfect system but it keeps the tools cleared. Don’t beat me up too much

1 hour ago, Larry Blighton said:

However the garage is already wired on its own circuits

Larry,

How many circuits are feeding the garage?

If more than one you might be able to simply do a little rewiring and have 220 Volts without having to run a new feed line.

Billy, if you're happy with what you have no one has any cause to beat you up.  Seems to me that opinions of DC range more broadly with Woodworkers than maybe any other subject. There are those who think anything more than a dust pan (or scoop shovel) and broom are all you need, and others who want something that will collapse the walls of their shop when they turn it on. Both are right, they have what they want.....something we collectively sometimes forget when offering our own opinions.

Never happy but too busy and trying to start a cabinet shop I had to go with the easiest solution. I actually at the time was looking at the woodsucker when it came out. Now 15 years later I'm  happy enough with what I have. But you have to remember to turn it on.cause I'm  always forgettin.

Sawdust?

 

1 hour ago, BillyJack said:

 

 

I can tell ya right now you will never have a dust free shop if you do any woodworking...

 

Truer words were never spoken!

35 minutes ago, Larry Buskirk said:

Larry,

How many circuits are feeding the garage?

If more than one you might be able to simply do a little rewiring and have 220 Volts without having to run a new feed line.

Right now the garage has outlets that run off I think two 15 amp circuits tied into the house.  Then there are two dedicated 15 amp circuits that only supply the garage power. 

18 minutes ago, Fred W. Hargis Jr said:

There are those who think anything more than a dust pan (or scoop shovel) and broom are all you need, and others who want something that will collapse the walls of their shop when they turn it on.

I'm with the first group, most times I do my cutting outdoors so I don't have to clean it up. 

4 minutes ago, Larry Blighton said:

Right now the garage has outlets that run off I think two 15 amp circuits tied into the house.  Then there are two dedicated 15 amp circuits that only supply the garage power. 

You might be able to rewire the two dedicated circuits into a sub panel in the garage and have both 110, and 220 volts.

1 minute ago, Larry Blighton said:

Right now the garage has outlets that run off I think two 15 amp circuits tied into the house.  Then there are two dedicated 15 amp circuits that only supply the garage power. 

It is relatively very easy to convert a single outlet circuit between 110/220 volts, BUT!!!! You have to KNOW!!! That it is the only receptacle on the circuit. I have seen homemade juryrigged outlets forgotten to be converted back to 110 volts. (In other words they used a 110 outlet for 220, put a 110 cord cap on the 220 volt machine) The next several 110 volt loads that were plugged into said outlet were DESTROYED. iff’n I was within driving distance I would look at this for you.