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Shop layout / Dust collection

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9 minutes ago, Pat Meeuwissen said:

You could also install a manual on switch if you wanted to turn it on without the remote. In case you ever "misplace" the remote that sort of thing never happens to me. LOL

I have been known to misplace a remote or two.  I am going to find a special place to put the remotes (Air cleaner and dust collector). Maybe Santa will bring me an apron that they can be clipped to. 

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    Ok so I have changed the layout of my shop from the original post, Now I have not changed much in the 1.5 years that it has been set up.  Here is a new picture of the shop layout and of the dust colle

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I took some self adhesive Velcro and put one side on back of remote. The other in a spot I hope I never forget.:lol:

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3 minutes ago, Woodbutcherbynight said:

I took some self adhesive Velcro and put one side on back of remote. The other in a spot I hope I never forget.:lol:

My wife told me to do the exact same thing.

 

Ok work has been pretty hectic so I have really been able to create any sawdust yet.  However I have started buying the things I need to make my DIY Bin sensor right now I am at about $40 and I dont really see it going over $50.   

Look forward to seeing how you'll accomplish the bin sensor. Not something I've come across yet.

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2 hours ago, Pat Meeuwissen said:

Look forward to seeing how you'll accomplish the bin sensor. Not something I've come across yet.

I am waiting for the parts to come in, had to purchase them on Ebay to keep the price down. As soon as I get them I will start working on it and get some pictures posted. 

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Ok so the last few parts for the sensor hopefully will be in this week and I can get started on that little sided project.  I however have another question related to dust collection.

When it comes to dust collection hoses there are so many different types an manufactures out there, What does everyone prefer and why? If I buy Anti-Static hose will this help with any static build up in the system or should I still ground the system?

Listed below are just a few I found
Harbor Freight - Clear Flexible Hose

Rockler -  Clear Flexible Hose
Rockler -  Dust Right Expandable Hose
Rockler - Dust Right Anti-Static  Hose

Woodcraft - Flexaust Clear Flexthane  Hose 
Woodcraft - HI-TECH DURAVENT ULD Urethane  Hose 
Woodcraft - Flexaust Anti-Static Clear Hose 

PSI - D50C Dust Collection Hose Clear Flexible

I can't help with whether the anti static hose works since I don't have any. But I bought some from Woodworker's Supply (clear) and it's a lot more flexible than some of the solid black stuff.

On 12/16/2019 at 12:55 PM, Larry Blighton said:

Ok so the last few parts for the sensor hopefully will be in this week and I can get started on that little sided project.  I however have another question related to dust collection.

When it comes to dust collection hoses there are so many different types an manufactures out there, What does everyone prefer and why? If I buy Anti-Static hose will this help with any static build up in the system or should I still ground the system?

Listed below are just a few I found
Harbor Freight - Clear Flexible Hose

Rockler -  Clear Flexible Hose
Rockler -  Dust Right Expandable Hose
Rockler - Dust Right Anti-Static  Hose

Woodcraft - Flexaust Clear Flexthane  Hose 
Woodcraft - HI-TECH DURAVENT ULD Urethane  Hose 
Woodcraft - Flexaust Anti-Static Clear Hose 

PSI - D50C Dust Collection Hose Clear Flexible

My system has limited flex and I cannot see that the type hpose will make that much difference

Larry, i'd advise this priority

1.  Use as little flex as possible

2.  If ya gotta, keep it straight.  Bends are killers

3.  Interior smooth as possible

4.  Ignore grounding and static concerns

 

Flex typically has 4--6 times the pressure loss of pvc or metal, hence less=better.  But if you're talking 5--6' of straight flex (or slightly offset to allow tool to move), the overall system effect is only a few percent.

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10 minutes ago, PeteM said:

Larry, i'd advise this priority

1.  Use as little flex as possible

2.  If ya gotta, keep it straight.  Bends are killers

3.  Interior smooth as possible

4.  Ignore grounding and static concerns

 

Flex typically has 4--6 times the pressure loss of pvc or metal, hence less=better.  But if you're talking 5--6' of straight flex (or slightly offset to allow tool to move), the overall system effect is only a few percent.

Thanks

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ok well everything for my dust bin level sensor arrived and I actually got some time to work on it today.

First let me say that this was not my idea, I found this on youtube and thought thats alot cheaper then the Oneida version.  

I built a box and mounted the flashing amber light and a green light to it.  The green light lets me know that there is power to the sensor.  When the amber light flashes the green light goes out. I still have to mount the sensor in the bin but it worked during my trial.

Here is a list of the items i used for a total cost of $42.56 vise $148 from Onieda
QS18VN6D Banner Engineering Corp Photoelectric Sensor - $22 (Ebay)
Amber/Yellow 30W 12volts Emergency Warning Flashing Safety Strobe - $8.42 (Ebay)
12V, Green LED, Flush Panel Mount - $4.15 (Amazon)
DC12V 2A Power Supply Adapter - $7.99 (Amazon)
Scrap wood to build box for it. 

 

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Nicely done, and a valuable addition.

Very nice setup. May have to copy that. @Larry Blighton does the green led only serve as a power on light?

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1 hour ago, Gerald said:

Very nice setup. May have to copy that. @Larry Blighton does the green led only serve as a power on light?

Yes the green light is just a power light.   It could be absolutely left out and out wouldn't hurt anything. The one sold by Onieds doesn't have a power indicator so there is no easy way to tell if the system has power so I thought it was a good idea. 

It is a good idea to ave that power indicator. The transformer on mine (Oneida) went bad, meaning the warning light didn't, well, warn. It was only luck that I looked in the can and saw it was getting full. I bought anotehr transformer and got back in business, but with the indicator light I would have known when it failed.

18 hours ago, Larry Blighton said:

ok well everything for my dust bin level sensor arrived and I actually got some time to work on it today.

Nice work, and thanks for the diagram.  I was curious how it worked.

 

I don't have a dust bin sensor other than go check.  But I do have a red light that comes on when I fire up the DC.  This reminds me to turn off the DC before I leave for the evening.  If I forget the shop has a red glow, reminding me I forgot.  My Dc is on the other side of the shop wall and is not very loud so it is easy to forget.   Had thought about a remote and such but hey this has worked for a long time, I have 3 lifetimes of other stuff to get done.  :)

The dust bin sensor is intriguing. I will be interested to see how the reliability is. I agree with the previous post about bends and using flex tubing. Use as little as possible on both. I use a dual system which involves two 2hp collectors. One inside with a 1 micron filter and one outside with a 30 micron which was the largest pore bag I could find at the time. Everything is connected using triple wall PVC with grounding wire. I have them both on the same frequency remotes so they turn on simultaneously. This gives me enough CFM to manage the jointer, table saw and planer. The reason for the dual system is that there are times when the temps here in Vegas are at either extremes and when I don’t need the second collector. By just running the inside one I can conserve either the cool or warm air. The other reason the outside one is important is that when working with the more toxic woods it’s important to get the stuff completely out of the shop. As far as noise and the neighbors it’s fairly easy to sound proof one that is outside. You can silence one way below the level of an AC condenser for instance with a simple enclosure and sound proofing foam. 
Paul

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Ok so I have changed the layout of my shop from the original post, Now I have not changed much in the 1.5 years that it has been set up.  Here is a new picture of the shop layout and of the dust collection system.  I still have some things that I want to change (metal blast gates instead of plastic, so form of dust collection hood for miter saw).

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