2 minutes ago, FlGatorwood said:

Ah!!!! Hydrogen Peroxide.

Yes, the crème helps keep it on not just flow off like water.  I dye my wife's hair for her so I was familiar with how the stuff works.  You add the color to similar crème but not such a high level of Hydrogen Peroxide.  This stuff will burn the scalp.  Maybe I should swap it at work with the hand lotion.  I bought two 32 oz bottles.

Day 2 of ceiling install.  This time I had more than 3 hours so I got much further.  Took my time and went slow and paid attention to details.  I made two runners I screw to the ceiling so one person can install a 12 ft sheet alone.  Adds to the time but once I got a rhythm going went smoothly.  I lack 2 more pieces to install.  One full sheet and one I have to cut the width down.  Out of all the soffit I had saved it comes down to this, I need one, yes one more piece to finish.  Very little scrap, small pieces under 12 inches long.  I have maybe 4 total.  

 

Tough part now is the wiring for the lights, as well as making some brackets for them to attach to ceiling.  My temp set-up works okay for shop use.  I can do something better for this application.  So I have 16 of them to make, and then of course wiring up the 4 outlets, and 4 downlights.  That requires getting up in attic.  Something that with 95F weather predicted doesn't sound fun to do.  

 

Looks good Gunny.  Be careful if you do go into the attic today...

On 9/9/2019 at 8:10 AM, Cal said:

Looks good Gunny.  Be careful if you do go into the attic today...

Thanks, did not get up there yesterday.  But it rained today and the temp went down making it more tolerable.  Managed to get floor up and braces for the electrical boxes put in between rafters.  Hopefully tomorrow is as nice and I can run the wiring.   

Took me two nights to get lights up an operational again after putting up the soffit.  Temp installs tend to be easy, the final product not so much.  I made 16 blocks then covered them in trim coil so nom painting once and done.  Total of 16 to make so took me awhile.  Then tonight I got them installed in ceiling and on to the wiring.  While I had intended to cut the wires shorter and just have them fully exposed I happened to think about it so more and instead partially hid them.  Drill a small hole close to the lights then threaded the wire inside the soffit over to the electrical box.  Cut a small notch there and pulled it through then attached my own lamp end.  Nice thing here is I need only take off the lamp end to deal with the wires, if ever.

 

Probably better to see this in pictures.

 

 

 

 

 

Tomorrow I can begin to work on running wire for the soffit lights.  Got two installed but no wiring done yet.  These are 9 watt LED's that will come on when the motion sensor triggers.  I never have liked the floodlights under the carport, blinds you.  These on show down and with 4 total when done will provide sufficient lighting to be able to see and walk around the vehicles.  Always nice.  The other main lights are for task lighting.  

 

Nice, I like that approach with the wires...very clean.

Very nice Gunny, I like that a lot.

That wiring will stop the wrens and sparrows from nesting and roosting which will keep the cars and floor clean.  Great job.

 

 

7 minutes ago, FlGatorwood said:

That wiring will stop the wrens and sparrows from nesting and roosting

It's a tiered defense.  Less places for them to perch, then of course the many cats offer little peace for them.  Now if I could just keep the cats from trying to come up the ladder to the attic while I am working. 

 

Curious ones seem to think it is new hiding place, or wonder what I am doing and thus it must be inspected.  

19 hours ago, Woodbutcherbynight said:

It's a tiered defense.  Less places for them to perch, then of course the many cats offer little peace for them.  Now if I could just keep the cats from trying to come up the ladder to the attic while I am working. 

 

Curious ones seem to think it is new hiding place, or wonder what I am doing and thus it must be inspected.  

That’s cause they’re SNOOPERVISORS!

1 hour ago, Artie said:

That’s cause they’re SNOOPERVISORS!

TRUTH.  Just came down to take a break.  While running a wire in attic I hear a funny noise behind me.  Looking over my shoulder one of the cats has climbed the ladder and found a nice spot to observe me.  Hearing more noise another one is coming up the ladder.  Yup, break time.  Everybody OUT!!  

Stayed at this all day.  Had to remove couple pieces of plywood flooring in the attic to get access to the rafters below and run some wires.  Yeah it was hot even with a fan running.  Hard part was fishing the wall from the attic to the old light fixture.  Only had to go 38 inches and I measured and hit the right spot 1st time.  But getting the wire fish down into the wall took me and the wife.  She stayed at the bottom and with a flashlight managed to get ahold of the fish.  While I lost another 10 lbs in sweat.

 

But after all the wiring was run, and hooked up the results were better than expected.  I used four 9 watt LED downlights.  Put one above the side door, one at the back gate and the other two on either side of my truck doors.  So now when I pull in at night the motion sensor turns on all 4 lights, and when I get out of the truck I can see quite well.  Passenger side, same thing.  Very nice to have the extra light, we ain't getting any younger here.

 

My wife noted that when the downlights are on it seems to be as much light as the previous main lights which were some old florescent kitchen lights with diffusers.  The diffusers were constantly getting full of dead bugs and dirt dobbers.  We get this for a mere 36 watts of used electricity, not a bad savings.  The lights cost me $35 and even if they last 5 year warranty still worth the cost.

 

Enough talk, lets see some pictures.

 

@Artie will appreciate how much fun this work area was to work in.

 

 

 

View from front of carport, I'll clean up my mess tomorrow.  Finally a task that doesn't require a weight loss program.

 

 

 

View from side entry.

 

 

Now my real design benefit.  Light where you need it when you get out of the truck.

 

 

A great job, well done !

Great execution Gunny.  I can see where this might be beneficial on the front porch with a motion sensor - or maybe not, will think on it for awhile...

Problem with a motion sensor is the cats will likely be turning the lights on regularly.

19 hours ago, Woodbutcherbynight said:

Stayed at this all day.  Had to remove couple pieces of plywood flooring in the attic to get access to the rafters below and run some wires.  Yeah it was hot even with a fan running.  Hard part was fishing the wall from the attic to the old light fixture.  Only had to go 38 inches and I measured and hit the right spot 1st time.  But getting the wire fish down into the wall took me and the wife.  She stayed at the bottom and with a flashlight managed to get ahold of the fish.  While I lost another 10 lbs in sweat.

 

But after all the wiring was run, and hooked up the results were better than expected.  I used four 9 watt LED downlights.  Put one above the side door, one at the back gate and the other two on either side of my truck doors.  So now when I pull in at night the motion sensor turns on all 4 lights, and when I get out of the truck I can see quite well.  Passenger side, same thing.  Very nice to have the extra light, we ain't getting any younger here.

 

My wife noted that when the downlights are on it seems to be as much light as the previous main lights which were some old florescent kitchen lights with diffusers.  The diffusers were constantly getting full of dead bugs and dirt dobbers.  We get this for a mere 36 watts of used electricity, not a bad savings.  The lights cost me $35 and even if they last 5 year warranty still worth the cost.

 

Enough talk, lets see some pictures.

 

@Artie will appreciate how much fun this work area was to work in.

 

 

 

View from front of carport, I'll clean up my mess tomorrow.  Finally a task that doesn't require a weight loss program.

 

 

 

View from side entry.

 

 

Now my real design benefit.  Light where you need it when you get out of the truck.

 

 

All those complaints and you had plywood over the joists? I get stuck tip toeing on the joists while trying to crawl around, on top of the insulation, yada, yada, yada. It’s the insulation I hate, I can deal with the heat (sorta) but I HATE the insulation. I believe Kali has now classified the pink stuff as the same as asbestos. Nice, accessible junction box! 

6 hours ago, Al B said:

Problem with a motion sensor is the cats will likely be turning the lights on regularly.

 

Yeah they had fun last night, my wife got up to see why the light kept coming on.  It was the cats.

3 hours ago, Artie said:

All those complaints and you had plywood over the joists?

 

Yes and No.  Yes it was there, but I had to take all the pieces up to run the wires. So No, didn't help at all till I was all done. 

 

3 hours ago, Artie said:

Nice, accessible junction box! 

I might add on to this so I made sure I can get to it.    Looked tobnight at the front door and wanted to add another motion sensor with 4 more lights to the front door.  Cannot mount the sensor to the ceiling, the storm door will hit it when you open it up.  Cannot mount to the wall, same problem.  I probably will have to put the sensor closer to the driveway and have a longer on time so when you come to door the light is still on. 

Having gotten the lights all up and working I noticed that when I come into the carport from the backyard I have to walk halfway in before the motion sensor detects me and turns on the lights.  So I wondered if I could hook two up and point in opposite directions.  Found a wiring schematic online that matched how I thought they might work.

 

Tonight I did a mock up and performed some testing.  It does work!  Not hard to do and simple wiring.  Just have to get a new motion sensor tomorrow.

 

 

 

 

I woulda weighed in on it earlier, but the Missus had cataract surgery yesterday. She’s a type one diabetic and was nervous as %^$%# about the surgery. All went well, and at the follow up appointment this morning was seeing 20-20 out of the eye that had surgery. The other eye is scheduled for Oct 30. As Gunny has already proven, the diagram works.

7 hours ago, Artie said:

I woulda weighed in on it earlier, but the Missus had cataract surgery yesterday.

Hope all goes well with her recovery.  

 

7 hours ago, Artie said:

the diagram works.

Indeed.  My neighbor has already ordered several he wants made this way.  Guess he is going to be paying for my new ones.