in a building no longer exists....back in 1968..Freshman year...Industrial Arts Class. 

We were given a "Grade Sheet" of 8 types of wood joints.   Each joint was shown as a drawing...with 2  _ _ areas beside it...when each joint was completed, you put in the date, and the Teacher recorded the grade...you had to pass each step...BEFORE you could use anything besides these tools..

To include the bench vise.   You went to the tool crib, and signed out the day's tools you needed....at the end of the class, they were returned to the crib.    You also spent one class period IN the tools crib...keeping track of all the tools. 

 

Joints? 

Simple Butt Joint

Mitered corner joint

half lap joint

Bridle Joint

Rebate joint

 Mortise and Tenon joints

Dovetail joints ( one dovetail as a half lap joint)

Dado joint

 

Each day, you'd sign out the tools, put on you blue denin work apron....lay the sheet on the bench and get to work....IF it was shop time...other days, you would be taking a drafting class..

 

 

This evening...I went out to Lowes, spent just under $20 on 3 boards..(2) 3/4" x 2-1/2" x 4', and (1) at 3/4" x 2-1/2" x 6'

 

Plan is to re-create that wood working test...boards will be hand sawn to 6" length...to include laying out that cut, and sawing it.  

The Butt joint?  may or may not do that...the Miter joint..will get turned into a mitered half lap ( to keep you on your toes)

 

IF this sounds like something you'd like to see, AND DO....Class will start next week...

Let me know..

1 hour ago, steven newman said:

IF this sounds like something you'd like to see, AND DO....Class will start next week...

Let me know..

I may be tardy for a few sessions, but count me in. OK to have donuts during class time?

what???!!! no duct tape will hold it good enough until i find some drywall screws joint????  c'mon man....

2 hours ago, DAB said:

what???!!! no duct tape will hold it good enough until i find some drywall screws joint????  c'mon man....

Geez, DAB... You're starting to sound like my brother-in-law!

14 hours ago, steven newman said:

Joints? 

Simple butt joint using duct tape and baling wires thru drilled holes (3 minimum)

Simple lap joint (end to end) using a third piece of wood (different width ok), drywall screws, and a hammer to break off the screws that are too long.

Simple Butt Joint

Mitered corner joint

half lap joint

Bridle Joint

Rebate joint

 Mortise and Tenon joints

Dovetail joints ( one dovetail as a half lap joint)

Dado joint

 

there you go, list updated for the rednecks that cannot afford decent tools, but have lots of enthusiasm, but not a lot of skill.

i have a set of (most of) those that i take to woodworking judging and sometimes ask them to identify the joints.

 

...and after that we had to gain in a hinge and mortice a mortise a door lock. Then on to a birdhouse and finally a sawhorse with compound miters on the legs. If you got thru that, we started to learn the power machines.

Class will start next Monday..IF you want...

Already have the "Miter Joint" done...

Gluing slips into place, top and bottom of the box..

Does using a Cordless Mitersaw mean cheating?

 

Hmmm?

I think they had these, way back when..

I think I can count 4 in this photo...and no, that is not me down on the right....

many years ago, we re-did our kitchen, when it was time to pick out countertops, we visited a countertop place (duh), and we were looking for granite.  we sat at an octagonal table in their office to go over things, and each side of that table had a different edge profile.  very clever sales technique.  bevel/chamfer, that's this edge.....

 

4 sided/4 corner box, you can use 4 different corner joints!

Alrighty, then...IND ARTS Class, freshman in High School back in 1968...Class Period was 30 minutes long.   On the days you were not upstairs taking Drafting Classes, or Pulling Tool Crib Duty....you worked at a bench with a bench vise at each corner,  and metal lockers underneath...you had a lock on YOUR locker.   So..you went downstairs to your locker, got out your Shop Apron, and any paperwork or bits of wood that you were working on....then go to the Tool Crib, sign out the tools you thought were needed that day.    At 5 minutes before the "Bell" to change to the next class...you returned all tools you signed out, swept your work area, returned the paperwork, bits of wood and the Shop Apron to your locker, locked it up...and head off to the next classroom. 

 

Yes, there was a work sheet

With a space to show when the item was completed, and what grade the Teacher gave it..

 

A "Simple Butt Joint"?   Not quite so simple, in that you were given this..

That you were required to cut 2 pieces from...exactly 6" long, and square all the way around....and that the angle was exactly 90 degrees..without any gaps...with just the back saw to make the cuts.   And..that 6" length was indeed checked, and graded.

 

There was I think 3 or 4 such Worksheets, each with 2 or 3 types of joints...all done with a 3/4" x 3" x 6" set of wood parts and just hand tools..

 

Today's wood?

Is a slight bit smaller...than what came from the DeGraff  Lumber Co. on the south side of town in 1968...

 

So...Class begins on Monday...we'll see how these first 3 joints come out...

Already bringing back similar memories from my 8th grade year of Industrial Arts. I'll dig out my two projects from that era and post along here at some point. Still use one to this very day. I guess its survived ~58 years so it would be vintage now. Apparently I did an OK job.

Had to sharpen an old knife back up..

Yep...it has seen quite a few "sharpenings"..Need this for knifing lines..

If you are wondering about that 6" requirement...

This is why....as a 6" tri-square was used...but, any wear at that corner..made the measurement too short...but, they still used the 6" requirement to grade things to..

Much as I'd like to play, I'm made too many boxes to have room for any more. After 45ish years of introducing students to woodworking processes the corner joints evolved to one joinery box each had to make, with a different joint on each corner.  A back saw was presented as an option, but the powered compound miter saws/table saws/router table/jointer/planer/drill press/vacuum press/and CNC work all were required to be used.   Of course we were training furniture design students and not woodworkers.  The end goal was to get them confident enough about how things could be made to consider those processes when they designed their furniture projects.  

https://4dfurniture.blogspot.com/2022/04/woodworking-education-joinery-box-not.html

Excuse the excessive text. The project had much more usefulness and education in it than most students expected or realized until they were done. 

4D

Well...does that include reading a title?

This showed what I and many others my age had to put up with...way back when...

back when typing on a Typewriter was a "thing", and a Keyboard was an electric piano/organ ...

 

And..how many Hobbyist Woodworker know  HOW to put all the hand tools to actual use....let alone what each wood working joint is supposed to look like

 

Just imagine saying build a door's frame, using mitered half laps at the corners...

 

Welcome to follow along, IF you want...

1 hour ago, steven newman said:

Well...does that include reading a title?

Welcome to follow along, IF you want...

Yep, I read the title.  All the posts above as well. Sorry if I offended you. Not my intent. 

My first woodworking class in junior high school, circa 1970ish, included making a cedar table lamp on the lathe, and making a corner shelf.  I don't remember anything but dado joints, a jig saw, the common lathe tools used and the teacher's name.  Class was a requirement for all young men to take while the girls took typing or shorthand classes.  Clearly enough of a start to make me aware of a potential in wood for creative expression of my ideas.  Same with the metals class I took the next semester. 

And follow along I will.  I do want to. Thanks.

4D 

Dear Mr. Newman,

 

Please excuse Dave from class tomorrow as I will be needing him to complete a variety of assigned tasks at home he failed to complete as requested. He will promptly be in class Tuesday when I return to my regular work schedule. Appropriately, he will not be allowed donuts during his absence. My apologies for his absence and any inconvenience to you or the other students.

 

Signed, Mrs. Dave, Parole Officer.

Ta obair le deanamh agaiin...Starting up...

Joint #1

Start with checking the end of the board used for square..

Measure out 6" section..

Use a knife, nick an edge at the 6" length..

Pencil, knife and a square, to "carry these marks all the way around..

face #1..then..

Both edges next...and finally..

Make sure the 2 marks from the edges match on the other face of the board. Knife and pencil the line..

Take up a saw..use the knife lines as a guide for the saw....check by holding a square between the saw and the board, to see IF the saw is perpendicular

You can also watch the reflection on the saw's plate...

While you can use the knife lines as a guide, you need to have the saw cut on the waste side of those lines..

Support the piece being cut off until you are done..Set the piece up on top and check to see how square the joint is..

Remove the square..parts should look like this, without any fasteners being used

 

Joint #1 is completed....6/24/2024...Grade?

 

Stay tuned, for Joint #2..

That would be a tough one to grade.  Given a range of A to F it appears at least a C+ (a bit above average) for standing up square. I'd need to see how smooth the ends were after the saw cut, tearout, and check for any light peeping through the seam between the parts before bumping it up to a B or an A. 

Curious if the grade mattered if above an F so long as you "passed" each joint assignment.      

Edited June 24, 20241 yr by 4DThinker

Saw used is a Disston No. 4 Backsaw...14" long, 11ppi....Basically what came with those Black Plastic Mitre Boxes back then...and will be used through out this lesson plan.

 

Stay tuned...heading down to work on the next joint in the plan...

Checking for gaps..

 

And a look at what an 11ppi Rip saw leaves behind..

Brought a different ruler along, today..

A wee bit easier to see and read..