Is this what is known as a "two-holer?"  

 

Question: Are your posts in the ground on or on top of ? I can't tell for certain... I have plans to do a timber frame building sometime in next year or so,..that is one of my "not sures". After talking to a few guys at the moment I'm leaning toward on top of the concrete slab with a metal bracket of some kind to bolt in to. 

On 7/31/2019 at 6:52 PM, aaronc said:

Question: Are your posts in the ground on or on top of ? I can't tell for certain... I have plans to do a timber frame building sometime in next year or so,..that is one of my "not sures". After talking to a few guys at the moment I'm leaning toward on top of the concrete slab with a metal bracket of some kind to bolt in to. 

For here locally they allow post for small buildings and decks that are below 24 inches to be buried posts.  For this project I used same method as before.  24-30 inches down, seal the post ends the day before and then fill hole with concrete.  The old ones were in good shape after 19 years but I cheated at the time and only went 12 inches.  Learned a few things about that since then and now minimum is always 24 inches.  After they had cured for a week I made a top cap that is 3 1/2 inches taller than the ground and 2 inches all around the posts.  Just one for effort to protect them.

 

I did look into the post brackets you are speaking about just didn't think it mattered for this small of a size deck.  Kept the budget low on this project.  All the 4x4's were given to me by a friend I helped out with his deck.  The concrete came from another buddy that bought 24 bags too many for a project.

 

Anything above 24 inches cannot have ground contact, and anything attached to the main dwelling cannot have ground contact.  How well they enforce that is anyone's guess.  Been here 26 years, a lot of decks and 12x24 buildings have been built using post in the ground.  

Had small progress all week.  Took two evenings to get some outlets run, then switches and finally tuck it away all nice and neat.  Having seen a lot of decks I noticed that it is rare they have more than a single outlet.  You think hey 2 outlets is enough right until you want some lights, maybe a speaker for a party powered up, and then something else.  Two just doesn't get the job done.  So I put two outlets in the exterior walls which brings the total available on the deck to 3 outlets.  Maybe enough?  Who knows?

 

Next up was time to close the interior walls up with some OSB.  Couple of outlets and electrical boxes to cut out for but after two evenings all done.  Sealed the 4 joints between walls with caulk.  Next day a coat of Kilz oil based primer to seal the OSB.  They have this nasty black stamping on this stuff so a 2nd coat was required.  Finally today we have nice weather so I gave it a coat of color, this required a shirt change after 30 minutes it's right at 97F.  

 

Currently waiting on it to dry and apply 2nd and maybe a 3rd coat today.  Once done I can install the  outlet and electrical box covers then install vinyl ceiling soffit and paint the floor.  Might get interior done by end of this week.  

 

Not a lot to show but a lot of detail work you never see but appreciate later when you don't have to go back and fix something. 

 

Forgot to post the pictures of the outlets.

 

 

20 minutes ago, Woodbutcherbynight said:

Forgot to post the pictures of the outlets.

 

 

WHAT? No in use bubble cover? Wouldn’t fly here in the peoples republic of taxachusetts.

Artie, I have to agree.  Those outlets are not permitted here.  We have to have those doors or bubble doors.  I prefer what Gunny is using as you open only the one you are using. 

Edited August 11, 20196 yr by FlGatorwood

Also gotta be GFI protected, which I suspect these are.

58 minutes ago, Artie said:

WHAT? No in use bubble cover? Wouldn’t fly here in the peoples republic of taxachusetts.

Well if I was selling the place and an inspector insisted they had to be covered before the sale then yeah you would be required to have nice expensive bubble covers. Bit of overkill when the code requires a GFI receptacle for every circuit. 

 

50 minutes ago, Artie said:

Also gotta be GFI protected, which I suspect these are.

Yes the circuit has one, just in case I decided to spray water right into the outlet.  One of those hold my beer moments??

Looking mighty nice there Gunny

Out here, on the edge of reality, those bubble covers, of which you speak, haven't made it into the code...yet. In fact, I've not heard of them. Got a picture or link? 

Here's a link to Lowe's.

 

https://www.lowes.com/pd/TayMac-1-Gang-Rectangle-Plastic-Weatherproof-Electrical-Box-Cover/50372928

31 minutes ago, FlGatorwood said:

Here's a link to Lowe's.

 

https://www.lowes.com/pd/TayMac-1-Gang-Rectangle-Plastic-Weatherproof-Electrical-Box-Cover/50372928

Thanks, Gator. Looks like UV would eat 'em up. But, the prices for metal???whew!!

Edited August 12, 20196 yr by Gene Howe

They’re called “In use” covers, meaning that they are listed to be rainproof, even with a cord plugged into it, during a rain storm. So why are the covers that WBBN posted not legal during a rain storm if there are no cords plugged in? I can’t get an answer on this. It would seem that the cover he used should be perfectly fine as long as he doesn’t plug a cord in during a rain storm. Most of us do not use cords outside in a rain storm. They USED to be perfectly legal, I’ve installed plenty of them over the years, and the inspectors passed them. But no more.

Those bubble covers are also great wasp homes. 

53 minutes ago, p_toad said:

Those bubble covers are also great wasp homes. 

Bet a pressure washer would get 'em out. 

This works wonders.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Spectracide-Wasp-and-Hornet-2-Count-2-Count-Insect-Killer/1000486507

 

I have used it under eaves, faucets and for the widows next door.  Of course, my mother's dad would pick them off one at a time and roll them between his fingers.  We used to go to an old country church whose windows were not all that tight. Every Sunday morning, folks would wait outside until he had killed all the wasps.  He would go from one window to the next, picking them off, rolling them between his thumb and forefinger.  Then he would drop them on the floor and step on them.  It was my joyous privilege to get the broom and dustpan to sweep them up.  After the clean up was done, folks would come in and take a seat.  I'll take my chances from 20 feet away.  

5 hours ago, Artie said:

It would seem that the cover he used should be perfectly fine as long as he doesn’t plug a cord in during a rain storm.

Well I have been know to do some crazy stuff at times.

 

I would think with the GFI in the circuit it still doesn't pose an issue.  And a GFI is required, and I do use them except in the shop.

On 8/12/2019 at 1:56 PM, Artie said:

It would seem that the cover he used should be perfectly fine as long as he doesn’t plug a cord in during a rain storm.

Believe it or not the older style covers work better if there is a rain storm. 

20 hours ago, p_toad said:

Those bubble covers are also great wasp homes. 

I haven’t experienced that yet, but that might be the NE location.