Cal Posted July 7, 2018 Report Share Posted July 7, 2018 18 hours ago, HARO50 said: I'm safe! John Me too... Grandpadave52 and HARO50 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post steven newman Posted July 8, 2018 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 Hmmm...well...I hauled a bunch of items to the shop, today....yard sale trip got in the way...got all the clamps from upstairs to the shop.. About half of what I'll need...we have more.. That big, red C clamp to the right? had a job for it, today... Marked the panel for the length I needed for the top..."freehanded" the circular saw along the line....splitting the line all the way. "leftover" was marked into strips.. 6 strips....need 5 but nice to have an extra on hand...Babied the bandsaw along, and made a few cuts.. Will stash the extras for another day...Stanley #2246 mitre box was used to cut the strips for length.. Only need 5 right now...the rest? Might be able to find a use for them..sometime? Dry fit, to check it for size...didn't like the square corners on the front.. We have a way to mark a round corner......Sabresaws to cut.. Not the best curve, but the beltsander can fix that.. Corners are done...for now. Now, about those strips. They are for the kickers, that keep a drawer from tipping down, when you slide it open...These need a pilot hole drilled, then countersunk....one per end....I can then glue and screw the kickers in place. I don't want the screw heads to hit the drawer going by....don't want the tip of the screw to show, either..got out the usual suspects.. One drill for the pilot hole, one for the countersink....takes too long to keep changing bits. anyway Both drills have strange markings.. This one is made by Millers Falls, and sold as a Keen Kutter brand...the other drill is a Stanley.. Ordinance Department, United Sates Army....hmm... Got the hole done..set the kickers aside.. Decided to try to make some corner blocks ( why is the shop getting so warm???) and set up a saw.. Set at 45 degrees. made two cuts.. It's a start....then noticed WHY it was so warm down here....some Dummy forgot to haul the fan back to the shop! Decided it was time to close up for the day....tomorrow that fan will be the FIRST thing done. Counting c clamps....I'll need to add at least 15 clamps to the glue up...that is going to be ....FUN...Only have two hands, so that means one clamp at a time....instead of 8? IF anyone wants to show up and lend a hand.... Stay tuned... Cal, Harry Brink, John Moody and 5 others 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HARO50 Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 12 hours ago, steven newman said: IF anyone wants to show up and lend a hand.... I wish I lived close enough, Steve. Who knows, I might learn something! John Cal and Grandpadave52 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven newman Posted July 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 Well, the cussing wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be....The fan went to the shop..... And turned on to "HIGH" Goal was to get the case up onto the empty bench....slide the "loose" side off the frames. Then installed the kickers. Then slide the frames out enough a bead of glue could be place in the grooves....then glue on the frames at the other end....then slide the "loose" side back on.....hammer was handy, if needed.. Then, added a few pipe clamps to the bottom of the case....enough that I could get the case off the bench, and onto the flattest spot in the shop floor...and add more clamps.. Working my way to the top....Kickers? They do not have to be perfect...just close to the center. They do not "guide" the drawers, just keep them from tipping down... Extra clamps, as the sides were cupped a bit in the middle....Toys were needed to make corner blocks... Needed a couple to make the corner blocks...then install them with glue and screws.. Later, I drill a slotted hole, so I can attach the top to the case. Slots allow the top to move a bit, as the seasons change. Sides? They are glue-ups of narrow boards, and won't move as much... Placed the mess out of the way, once I got it turned around, so the LONG ends of the clamps are out of the way.. I even had a couple clamps left over.....will let this set a day or two...maybe go and buy some more lumber to finish it up? Stay tuned.. HARO50, lew, Grandpadave52 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post steven newman Posted July 11, 2018 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 Shop was closed, yesterday....that "Monday" thing.....after almost T-boning a semi....decided to just sit around, where it was safe... Today? Got the clamps off the case, and stashed out of the way.. These are just the pipe clamps.... Most of the c clamps and other goodies hide out here....got out the vintage drill.. Then rock the drill front to back a few times.. To make a slot for a screw, to attach the case to the top... After some debate over which face of the top panel looked presentable....set that side down onto the bench, then got the case onto the top, and centered.. Sitting upside down on the bench. My 2" screws were a tad too long.....bad form to have the points poking through... Visegrip pliers to hold the screw, grinder to shorten each...between 1/8" and 1/4", dunk them into the cup of water, and then reform a point, and dunk again... Yeah...I also had a piece of plywood, used it to recheck the case for square.. Close enough. Will save this chunk of plywood, for a drawer bottom.. May have to trim it down a bit. Maybe by Friday, or so...I can go and get the rest of the lumber needed. Install the back, build a face frame..build 3 drawers? Maybe ready for stain and such by next week? Might just make that 18th of July deadline... lew, Cal, p_toad and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpadave52 Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 Good progress...to hot/humid here today to do that kind of work plus nuisance showers this PM. 1 hour ago, steven newman said: Maybe by Friday, So ya' know, it's the 13th. Just sayin'...keep the black cats out of the Dungeon. steven newman, Cal and HARO50 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven newman Posted July 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 Yeah.....and I lost almost an entire weekend...somewhere. Not even sure what day this is... Migraine ( I think..)hit late Friday night......ER most of that night.....not sure.... Maybe I can get the head back where it belongs....so I can do a bit of woodworking..... Dadio, Grandpadave52, p_toad and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven newman Posted July 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 Managed a little bit....no spinning saw blades, nor chisels sliding by... Most was with a hand powered mitersaw...and a couple drills....does sabresaw count? Side view...Just 6 sticks of pine, glued and screwed in place. Screws are in counter-bored holes, that I will go back over and plug with Pine plugs. The way the plywood came into the shop...have to do the back in two sections. Glued and nailed in place. IF I can float to the shop...I might get the back panel done.....Maybe later this week, I can start on the 3 drawers? Looks like there will be plenty of "Knotty Pine" showing...unless they paint this.... HARO50, p_toad and Cal 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lew Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 "paint"-- what a nasty word! HARO50, Cal and steven newman 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post steven newman Posted July 16, 2018 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted July 16, 2018 Ok..baby steps in the shop....work for a bit...sit for a longer bit....work for a bit....call it a night...maybe.. Back is completed.. I also added a pair of runners for the top drawer to slide on...just a couple pieces of scrap pine, cut to length, then glued and screw in place I also added drawer guides for each drawer.. These do not have to go all the way to the back....3/4 of the way is fine. Had to place the case back up onto the bench...to get the last two at the bottom... Even did a bit of rough sanding....need to start hauling planks to the shop, and see what kind of cuts I need to make....to build 3 drawers Stay tuned..( Ground Control to Major....) Cal, lew, p_toad and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven newman Posted July 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 Shop was closed today, and not just because it was a Bad Monday.......had a Gulley-washer rolling through town....next thing I know, there are a few creeks running across the floor of the shop. Good thing I left the case up on the bench. New glue bottle has been bought, and a few knobs. No sawdust was disturbed. Will see what I can get done in two days....anyone want to help? Cal, lew and HARO50 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gene Howe Posted July 17, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 I'd come help but, as fast as you work, you'd have it done before I got down the stairs. Artie, Grandpadave52, HARO50 and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post steven newman Posted July 18, 2018 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 Estimate for the repair of the van...$500....ouch. Lung Doctor visit this afternoon...meant a 5 block walk to the hospital, and a 5 block walk back....kind of put a dent in the shoptime.....sooo, do you want the entire 48 picture shop story, or just the Cliff's Notes? May do a couple shorter entries....had two separate jobs done today.... Ok, Plugs. Set up the Veritas 3/8" Tapered Plug Cutter in the drill press. Which tends to eat a plug now and then. I needed to mill at least 29 plugs, plus a couple extras, just in case.. Yep, it ate two plugs...and I had two others that weren't usable....still, was able to install all the ones I did need.. Simple enough to do. Use a screwdriver to pop a plug out, coat the narrow end with glue, and hammer each one home... And, IF you pay attention to the grain.....the plugs will vanish after you trim them down... These two are the "trimmers". A light tap with a hammer is all they need. As for the plug vanishing? Look right in front of the chisel's edge...there IS a plug sitting there. I had gone upstairs to get one 1 x 8 x 8' plank and bring it to the shop....allowing enough time for the glue to set up. A little sanding with some 180 grit....then I could set the case back on the floor. Needed to saw the plank into a few parts.. Circular saw was having "issues" following a line....couldn't decide which side it wanted to be on....Used the plane to square an end. Checked for fit..was a bit too wide Bandsaw to hog most of this off.. Junior Jack to even things out. Same thing with the two pieces for the drawer's sides....the one for the back of the drawer needed even more removed.. A little bigger Jack plane. I also clamped the two sides together, then planed them...they also needed a little more done on the ends. Test fit the front of the drawer... A little tight yet....I also tested the two sides.. And...before I throw these three things away.. There is one more, but it is already in the trash can.....where these three are headed. Set up the Stanley 45, to plough a #12 sized groove.. And, set up a jig, to hold the drawer front in place.. Groovy......needed this done first, so I can lay out the dovetail pins. Yes, I do pins first. Decided to try out a "new" dovetail saw today.. To kind of give the old guy a bit of a break...I also got out the Shop Stool...as the next episode will be sitting down on the job.. Stay tuned.....episode 2 will be here, shortly... p_toad, HARO50, Cal and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpadave52 Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 On 7/16/2018 at 10:00 PM, steven newman said: Will see what I can get done in two days....anyone want to help? I'd just be in your way and slow you down... Latest episode looks like all is going well and to plan. Sorry to hear about the van...always something unexpected it seems like. steven newman and HARO50 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post steven newman Posted July 18, 2018 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 Ok, dovetails, the Dungeon Shop way... Laid out for the pins on the end of the drawer front.. Nothing fancy here....just a combo square and a bevel square... Tried the new saw.. Not sure I like that boxy handle....went back to the old saw on the next set.....anyway, chopped the waste with a chisel, first one side Leave a little for support, flip the board over, and remove the rest.. Then transfer the marks to the other ends, and repeat....this is the front of the drawer front. I then either stand the pin board up To mark the tails. or.... A couple corner clamps to hold things still, while I trace around each pin. I use a pencil, and it doesn't really need to be all that sharp...as I cut on the waste side of the lines, trying to leave the lines... A few "extra cuts" helps out. This was just before the bandsaw fell apart....the other set of tails was by handsaw..just like the pins, chop 1/2 way then flip over and complete the cuts...then a test fit.. Then repeat for the other end.. Ok, reset the jig for the Stanley 45.. As both side pieces need a groove. Then they need a dado....I cut the dado walls with the mitre box.. Set to the depth needed. had to redo the jig. I was just going to chisel the waste out.....then thought of a different plane.. Called a Stanely#39 3/8" Dado plane...they did make a 3/4" wide one....all I have is the 3/8"....no biggie, just cut along both walls, and meet in the middle.. Works for me. Got both side parts done...still needed a few holes drilled.. The "Twins" came over, drilled and counter-sunk a few holes. The miter cut is to help start a drawer into it's opening. Got some glue and clamps installed...had trouble with the plywood bottom..needed the sabresaw to trim it to size.. Once I could get the plywood installed.....I pulled the drawer into as square as i could..THEN added screws to the plywood Yep, it be square. Will let this sit until morning, then fit it to it's opening. have two more to get done...and a bandsaw to repair. Just imagine all the cussing that went on today We'll see IF I get anything done tomorrow....no wheels, can't do a whole of anything else. Stay tuned... p_toad, DuckSoup, HARO50 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerald Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 Steven I never have figured our where you find the time to do all the PIP you do. Good job. Shame how the vehicles just go right in the prime. steven newman, Grandpadave52 and HARO50 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lew Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 Whew!!!!!!!!!!!!!! steven newman and HARO50 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven newman Posted July 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 Got Drawer #1 out of the clamps this morning....lot of clean up, and fitting done....sticks a bit right before it closes up all the way... Trying a bit of candle wax.....it will close, just binds a bit at the end. Other boards have been cut into MOST of the parts for the other two drawers... Yeah...and these are the good ones. I can work around some of these knots, I hope.. These? No way.....the two underneath? May be able to rip the good part off.... Taking a break for now.....and trying to decide which bit to use as an edge treatment.. mainly along the top's edges. Circular saw needed a break, anyway.. May go back and sweep the shop....again....already have twice today.. I do make a mess, don't I? Maybe when the shop cools down this evening, I can start on Drawer #2? Stay tuned... Cal, HARO50, Grandpadave52 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post steven newman Posted July 19, 2018 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 (edited) Appointments are being rescheduled.....don't have to go to Columbus, OH in the morning.....maybe I can get this project done in the meantime? Slipped back to the shop, this evening. Drawer #2 was started... There goes using this to resaw things to width......( maybe this weekend, I can tear it down, and rebuild it?) Old school....Drawer front didn't need a whole lot removed.... Took a while...made a bunch of Moxxon TP... The other half is on the floor. Checked the ends for square....nope. Tried a plane to "shoot" it square.. Meh....went with Old Reliable, instead.. Takes a while to cut a 1 x 8, on the flat. Got the Stanley 45 and a jig set up.. There is a bench dog at the far end, a block behind the board, then a screw to tighten it all down...yes, that is a Pitch Pocket....will clean it out, and fill it back up, later..Laid out the pins again...somehow wound up with a few extras... Then used the backsaw to make a few cuts.. Then clamp the board to the bench....and do a bit of chopping.. Half from one face, then finish up on this face...transfer the lines to the other end, lay out the lines and saw those. Then do some more chopping.. And the Chopping Crew. Front is done. Needed it to size one side panel ( for now..) Was a bit more than I wanted to jack plane off.....clamped the side panel to the bench, circular saw to buzz the 3/16" off, then a pass with a plane. Then I used the front panel one more time...to lay out for the tails....and then saw the waste side of the lines...leaving the lines.. Then chopped the waste out. Then did a dry fit... Mallet just to get it started. Was getting to be almost 10pm....time to stop. Staggered upstairs, and called it a night.. maybe tomorrow, I can get one drawer done....we'll see about the third.. Stay tuned.. Edited July 19, 2018 by steven newman p_toad, Al B, Grandpadave52 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandpadave52 Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Whew...busy bee today weren't you? I finally finished up all the mowing...11-1/2 hours total since Monday evening 6P start. Your project looks more enjoyable...I appreciate all the PIP's...better than any magazine. steven newman and HARO50 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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