September 10, 20178 yr Very creative Cliff. It certainly turns out some very clean & precise looking mortises
September 10, 20178 yr If you guys are talking about a mortising attachment for a drill press like one that is on a real floor model mortising machine, a square chisel around a drill bit,,,,,Then you will need a long cheater pipe on the drill press handle.. I have a Powermatic floor model. The handle is 25"long and you need ever inch of it when using hardwood even with new bit sets. So I'm not sure if the guys recommending the drill press setup have ever used one?? I would not recommend one. The right router set up would be my suggestion next to the real thing. I don't usually enter into discussions on the best of things but not happy with the suggestions.
September 10, 20178 yr Pictures I don't have any ideal how this Powermatic is rated but it does a good job.
September 10, 20178 yr 3 hours ago, kmealy said: 1/2" shank router bit. If I was going to adopt this, I'd probably eventually opt for an up-cut spiral router bit. I did this in drill press mode, but I might try in horizontal boring mode I was going to suggest the spiral bit and the horizontal mode. And, I'd suggest a carriage similar to a sled to hold the work. First, to elevate the work and second to provide a non moveable back stop. On my first attempt, my table got a divot from the rotation of the collet. I didn't do a run through first and the table was a bit too high. Since then, I've used the sled. And, I NEVER trust that fence to not move.
September 10, 20178 yr For the occasional stopped mortise or loose tenon mortise, any of the suggestions offered will get the job done. For through mortises in hard wood though, Patch's Powermatic or similar, is the way to go. In building some Morris chairs, several through mortises in white oak were required. A Delta bench top mortiser was used. And, Patch is so right about the need for a cheater. Many times in that process, I wished I'd opted to do stopped mortises with fake tenons glued on where they were to be exposed. And, just as often I regretted not buying the Powermatic.
September 10, 20178 yr Wouldn't such a tool as the PM floor model be just as expensive as a Domino? Just asking.....
September 10, 20178 yr Probably more expensive but, can the domino cut square mortises and through mortises?
September 10, 20178 yr 33 minutes ago, Fred W. Hargis Jr said: Wouldn't such a tool as the PM floor model be just as expensive as a Domino? Just asking..... get the bench model and put it on a stand..
September 10, 20178 yr Wow, just checked the PM bench top model at Rockler. $599. Festool Domino is $910 and up. Wonder if Rockler takes trades.
September 10, 20178 yr 1 hour ago, Gene Howe said: Probably more expensive but, can the domino cut square mortises and through mortises? No, but in the original question, the Domino was ruled out due to cost...that's why I asked.
September 10, 20178 yr 12 minutes ago, Fred W. Hargis Jr said: No, but in the original question, the Domino was ruled out due to cost...that's why I asked. I think the PM floor model is about $1300. Over double the bench model.
September 10, 20178 yr 1 hour ago, Gene Howe said: Festool Domino is $910 and up. accessorized out and cutters (that need replacing) it's around 675/700$ before tenons....... at least the PM mortiser chisels cover more sizes, longer depths and can be easily resharpened by the owner......
September 10, 20178 yr 3 minutes ago, Smallpatch said: I"m downsizing, I'll take 550 for mine if someone wants to come get it. complete package w/ all accessories no strings attached??? wasn't that PM from one of your school system buys...
September 10, 20178 yr 2 hours ago, Gene Howe said: Wow, just checked the PM bench top model at Rockler. $599. 51 minutes ago, Gene Howe said: I think the PM floor model is about $1300. Over double the bench model. Two of the main reasons I don't have either one of these. I guess that's why the promo on Woodsmith Shop says "Powermatic. the Gold standard..." If it's within your budget and usage volume, absolutely...but poor folks have poor ways so not likely something to appear in my shop garage work area. There are no right or wrong answers here...it comes down to what meets each individual's requirements and budget. I enjoy fishing occasionally too, but I don't own one of these to do it. Not saying if I had the means and justification I wouldn't.
September 10, 20178 yr called Sam... he has a Domino... he said he has over 2,000 dollars in his w/ co9ntinuing costs for care and feeding... he bought one of my PM bench models and he says the PM gets used way more than the Domino... Also it he had a Domino transmission failure when it was fairly new... them he went off on Festool's CS.. I know PM's CS is most excellent...
September 10, 20178 yr 52 minutes ago, Smallpatch said: I"m downsizing, I'll take 550 for mine if someone wants to come get it. If I was anywhere near reasonable driving distance, I think I'd take you up on that!
September 10, 20178 yr 10 minutes ago, Fred W. Hargis Jr said: If I was anywhere near reasonable driving distance, I think I'd take you up on that! I've been thinking about it. Anybody want a Delta Bench model. I'll deliver if you're between me and Patch.
September 10, 20178 yr Did I also mention it has a 5 or 6 hundred dollar factory cart under it. You could put a motor on it and drive it home. I noticed it has a little Texas dirt on it but you would probably cherish the thought of owning some. First factory cart I ever bought. Everything else has a yours truly built set of wheels.
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