February 11, 20179 yr I am hoping to enlist some extra eyes on this dilemma we are facing with creating certain departments in our wiki. I am currently working on our own wood data base. We all know about the popular and famous "The Wood Database". But in an effort to create one of our own, I need to use the terminology and listings of the properties of the wood. The Wood Database does have all of this, I could copy their structure and format. But I won't and can't. Because well, that would be copying. So in order to be original, and our wiki based on independent "Open Source" research, I need to find a website or research portal that does show those properties such as Tree Size, Specific Gravity, Crushing Weight etc, without scraping the information from a privately owned website. So I am looking for a govt website, or other open source website that I can use for my research in formatting the application that you, the user will use to fill out the menus for the properties of the lumber, and also you'll be able to geolocate the wood species to a world map, and provide an image as well. If anyone comes across an open sources website for research on lumber and wood species that talks about hardness scales, and specific gravity etc, I'd sure appreciate you sharing it to me. Thanks for any help! I know our wiki has been a long work in progress, but it's coming along, at http://thepatriotwoodwiki.org/HomePage It's turned out to be a long term project, I hope to have it open soon for all of you to contribute your factual knowledge too.
February 11, 20179 yr here's a start... lots in the sub links... https://plants.usda.gov/java/ https://www.treesearch.fs.fed.us/ https://www.treesearch.fs.fed.us/pubs/10976
February 11, 20179 yr forest service? https://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/index.php i don't know what all you are looking to gather, but i'm sure it's out there somewhere in some government publication.
February 11, 20179 yr Author 25 minutes ago, DAB said: forest service? https://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/index.php i don't know what all you are looking to gather, but i'm sure it's out there somewhere in some government publication. Thanks Dab, been there a whole lot in the past, but did not find a list of properties such as Janka Hardness, weight, or list of wood species. I greatly appreciate your efforts!
February 11, 20179 yr Author 29 minutes ago, Stick486 said: here's a start... lots in the sub links... https://plants.usda.gov/java/ https://www.treesearch.fs.fed.us/ https://www.treesearch.fs.fed.us/pubs/10976 @Stick486 thanks a ton, but none of that led anywhere. I have been there many times as well. If you see Wood Data Base, at http://www.wood-database.com/honduran-mahogany/ You'll see a list of properties and attributes for the wood species Honduran Mahogany I am looking for something like this, but from an open source.
February 11, 20179 yr Author I appreciate your efforts thus far gents! If you find a per species properties and attributes list anywhere open source, I'd love to see it.
February 11, 20179 yr Not sure if this will help you locate information https://scholar.google.com/schhp?hl=en&as_sdt=1,39
February 11, 20179 yr Author 1 minute ago, lew said: Not sure if this will help you locate information https://scholar.google.com/schhp?hl=en&as_sdt=1,39 Never seen that before, I'll have to check into it Lew, but not sure how it works or relates to this mission. But I'll figure it out!
February 11, 20179 yr Author @DAB and @Stick486 I included your links as research at our new Wood wiki page. They are very useful for research, thanks guys!
February 11, 20179 yr 39 minutes ago, John Morris said: @Stick486 thanks a ton, but none of that led anywhere. I have been there many times as well. If you see Wood Data Base, at http://www.wood-database.com/honduran-mahogany/ You'll see a list of properties and attributes for the wood species Honduran Mahogany I am looking for something like this, but from an open source. there is a set of PDF's put up by uncle that surpasses the wood data base... trying to find them my dead 'puter has them on it so I know they exist...
February 11, 20179 yr 4 minutes ago, Stick486 said: there is a set of PDF's put up by uncle that surpasses the wood data base... trying to find them my dead 'puter has them on it so I know they exist... Have you tried CPR? Herb
February 11, 20179 yr Author 14 minutes ago, Stick486 said: there is a set of PDF's put up by uncle that surpasses the wood data base... trying to find them my dead 'puter has them on it so I know they exist... If you do recover them Stick, I'd like to solicit your help, I'd even like it if you could upload them to a separate server that I can access (I'll set it up) so I can read them and use them for research, and we can also eventually upload them to our wiki. You may be sitting on a virtual gold mine I'd like to tap into.
February 11, 20179 yr here... all 463 pages.. https://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/fplgtr/fplgtr113/fplgtr113.htm General Information How to get the Wood Handbook You may download the entire publication from here by chapter or the entire publication at once. Although printed copies of the Wood Handbook are not available from FPL, you may order one from: o Download Entire Publication (PDF 14.3 MB) CAUTION! This is a very large file. o U.S. Government Online Bookstore at www.access. gpo.gov/su_docs/ sale.html o Forest Products Society -- Paperback from 2801 Marshall Court; Madison, WI 53705, or call (608) 231-1361, ext 202, or FAX (608) 231-2152 o Lee Valley Tools -- A hardcover is available at www.leevalley.com Or, email customerservice@leevalley.com To place an order from: -- U.S.: 1-800-871-8158 -- Canada: 1-800-267-8767 -- Other: 1-613-596-0350 o Available through other commercial resources -- Just do an online search because several organizations (especially bookstores) have this publication for sale. Downloading the Handbook This publication is in Portable Document Format (PDF--Adobe Acrobat). These files may be downloaded (for viewing or printing) by clicking on the linked titles. The Adobe Acrobat Reader (version 4.0 or later) must be installed on your system to view or print a PDF document. The Acrobat Reader may be part of your Web browser, or you may download it free.
February 11, 20179 yr how about the Wood Handbook? https://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/fplgtr/fpl_gtr190.pdf published April 2010 15MB of info, 508 pages of goodness. just downloaded it, still paging thru it. Edited February 11, 20179 yr by DAB
February 11, 20179 yr 5 minutes ago, John Morris said: If you do recover them Stick My intro was the 3 volume set I was issued... 2,765 pages give or take a couple... a sample... ch12_Drying_Control_of_Moisture.pdf Ch02 STRUCTURE OF WOOD.pdf Ch03 PHYSICAL PROPERTIES AN MOISTURE RELATIONS OF WOOD.pdf
February 11, 20179 yr will any of this be of help??? WOOD FOR OUTDOORS – APPLICATIONS.pdf WOOD FOR OUTDOORS – APPLICATIONS.pdf Wood Moves, Get Over It.pdf WOOD STRENGTH CHART.pdf Wood_Toxicity_Chart.pdf woods suitable for outdoor projects chart.pdf wwpaWesternLumberSpanTables.pdf AIR DRYING LUMBER.pdf AIR DRYING OF LUMBER.pdf Air-Drying Lumber.pdf Change of Species Changes the Rules.pdf CHARACTERISTICS OF WOOD and DEALING WITH THEM.pdf Common Furniture Woods.pdf DESIGN CALCULATIONS - WOOD STRENGTH.pdf fplgtr113.pdf GRADING HARDWOOD.pdf GRAIN DIRECTION AND STRENGTH.pdf HOW WOOD GROWS.pdf MOISTURE CONTENT AND MOVEMENT.pdf MoistureAffectsWood.pdf PRESSURE TREAT.pdf PRESSURE TREATED WOOD -USE CAUTIONS.....pdf READING GRAIN.pdf SAWN WOOD DIFFERENCES.pdf Species_Guide_Stength_Mech_Properties_Updated.pdf TOXIC WOODS CHART.pdf toxic_woods.pdf Wood - Strength and stiffness.pdf
February 11, 20179 yr more links... https://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/products/publications/several_pubs.php?grouping_id=100&header_id=p https://www.treesearch.fs.fed.us/pubs/5734 Edited February 11, 20179 yr by Stick486
February 11, 20179 yr Related Resources: Forest Products Lab "on pulp and paper products, housing and structural uses of wood, wood preservation, wood and fungi identification, and finishing and restoration of wood products." FPL publications Large amount of searchable publication database, including Dividends From Wood Research, Durability, and more. This publication in whole or part may be found online at: here. Related Concepts fungi and molds in buildings and their envelopes : Chapter 13 Biodeterioration of Wood measurement: moisture content : Chapter 3, 12 wood panel : Chapter 10 Wood-Based Composites and Panel Products wood, lumber, timber : wood handbook wood: engineered products
February 11, 20179 yr Don't ask him how an old windmill works,unless you want another 3-weeks to a month of reading, VOE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Herb
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