Ron Altier Posted February 9, 2017 Report Posted February 9, 2017 I have been having more problems with my allergies and am thinking of more protection from dust, that would protect my eyes too. I presently use a material mask that has coverage for my mouth and nose. It also has a check valve to exhale. I also use a full face shield. I am thinking of getting something better. Perhaps one that covers my face. Problem there is that I must wear glasses or magnifiers to see my work. I know I can buy stick on magnifiers that goes on the googles. There don't seem to be any clear cut answer I would like to hear what you use/recommend Thanks Quote
kmealy Posted February 9, 2017 Report Posted February 9, 2017 I seem to remember a full-face shield with a seal around it that had a little filter and pump that attached to the back of your belt and provided fresh air. Maybe someone else remembers what this was. Quote
HandyDan Posted February 9, 2017 Report Posted February 9, 2017 This is the only thing I can think of for the eyes too. I don't use this but I know of those who do and they seem to like it. They say it is a little heavy at first but then they get used to it. https://www.amazon.com/TREND-AIR-PRO-Airshield-Faceshield/dp/B002Q0Y5IU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1486683647&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=trend+airshield+pro&psc=1 Quote
lew Posted February 10, 2017 Report Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) Similar to what Dan posted- https://www.pksafety.com/3m-respirator-6900pf.html?gclid=Cj0KEQiAw_DEBRChnYiQ_562gsEBEiQA4LcsssUHIYV7QI4afYPL6zO1DcUNgqiZBOT9tGzHv2N7O9EaAu9Y8P8HAQ Not sure glasses would fit under it, however. Slightly different- https://www.grainger.com/product/6UNP7?gclid=Cj0KEQiAw_DEBRChnYiQ_562gsEBEiQA4LcssnhhN0L_XbPKcywS-kvyj0ce7os9iqO-71G7RUDgLN0aAlmV8P8HAQ&cm_mmc=PPC:GOOGLEPLAA-_-Safety-_-Respiratory-_-6UNP7&AL!2966!3!50916691197!!!g!82166708037!&s_kwcid=AL!2966!3!50916691197!!!g!82166708037!&ef_id=V9yF-gAAAJFhQhTF:20170210002107:s Edited February 10, 2017 by lew Quote
Gerald Posted February 10, 2017 Report Posted February 10, 2017 Ron I use the Trend Airshield Pro and highly recommend it. Yes glasses will fit under it. I bought mine from a fellow club member as he did not like the weight on his head. Last year the fan slowed down and I called them so they said to send it in . They fixed it at no charge and sent a new style headband as the old ones were breaking. Well the old one broke within a month of me getting it back. Then last month the new style one broke. I called and they sent another new one. The original battery was almost dead ( I had purchased a second ) so I looked online and found someone who rebuilt his. I ordered the batteries and did the rebuild at a cost of less than $20. Also you will want the overlays for the faceshield to protect the plastic. The filters can be blown off , however they recommend replacement. Even in the dustiest areas I get no dust through these filters. I did wash the fabric part last week and it came out fine. It does get heavy sometime and I have to take it off periodically. Just give me a holler if you have any other questions. Steve Krumanaker and Jari 2 Quote
Stick486 Posted February 10, 2017 Report Posted February 10, 2017 8 hours ago, Gerald said: I use the Trend Airshield Pro Gerald.. is it this one... Trend Airshield Pro.... Quote
Steve Krumanaker Posted February 10, 2017 Report Posted February 10, 2017 8 hours ago, Gerald said: Ron I use the Trend Airshield Pro and highly recommend it. Yes glasses will fit under it. I bought mine from a fellow club member as he did not like the weight on his head. It does get heavy sometime and I have to take it off periodically. Just give me a holler if you have any other questions. I have had one of the Trends in my Amazon cart more than a few times. The biggest reason I haven't pulled the trigger is concerns about the weight. It's not unusual for me to be at the lathe for hours at a time and I wonder if the weight would be a problem. I currently wear a 3M half mask under my face shield and it does a good job IMO. The filters are replaceable and vapor as well as particulate filters are available. I would say to Ron, it sounds as though the mask you're wearing is a paper mask? If so, most of those are designed for incidental use. For wearing daily, every day it's much better to invest a little more and get one designed for daily use. If I weren't concerned for the weight, the Trend would be a no-brainer. Steve Quote
Stick486 Posted February 10, 2017 Report Posted February 10, 2017 55 minutes ago, Steve Krumanaker said: I currently wear a 3M half mask under my face shield and it does a good job IMO. same one here and plus this when needed... 3M™ Full Facepiece Reusable Respirator..... Quote
John Morris Posted February 10, 2017 Report Posted February 10, 2017 Ron, I would go with @Steve Krumanaker suggestion, the half face respirators are fine. They don't cost an arm and a leg, and the filters are replaceable. Here is another source for half face filters at http://www.coopersafety.com/half-face-respirators-100.aspx Now for your eyes, you can purchase a set of safety glasses magnified from Walmart, in their eyeshop, or you can have prescription safety glasses, from partial seal to standard safety glasses. You can also purchase a pair of 3M magnified safety glasses at your local sears too, or online at http://www.sears.com/search=3m full lens magnifying safety glasses All due respect to the former replies, but I don't know about you, 400 bucks for a respirator is waaaaaay out of my league, I have a hard time getting a 10 buck bill in my wallet anymore with a kid in college and saving for our two others college, but that being said, it's an important feature to have while sanding and finishing. So spend as you see fit. I would personally lean towards a half mask, and magnified safety glasses. HARO50 and Jari 2 Quote
John Morris Posted February 10, 2017 Report Posted February 10, 2017 By the way, most insurance plans like mine, cover eye glasses and exams once a year. If your prescription is fine with your every day glasses, and you don't need to use your once a year prescription for one year, you can use that prescription for any type of prescribed eye wear, prescription safety glasses included. Last year I was going to do just that, but my prescription changed and I needed to update my daily users, so I figured I'd wait a year to get my safety prescription glasses. My exam in a week, and it should be fine as my site is fine with the glasses I have, so I'll be using my once a year benefit to purchase the safety glasses with prescription, from Walmart eye services. Quote
John Morris Posted February 10, 2017 Report Posted February 10, 2017 One more thing, all you half mask users, or any user with disposable cartridges/filters, keep your mask in a ziplocked plastic bag! If your mask is laying out in open air, the filters are working! And the life of the filters is greatly reduced. Jari and HARO50 2 Quote
HandyDan Posted February 10, 2017 Report Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) Ron is looking to keep the dust away from his eyes too because of allergies. He could wear a half mask and a diving mask for his eyes. The Trend or something similar is what he'll need to get and use. 3M has a full face respirator. https://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/H-1471/Dust-Masks-and-Respirators/3M-6800-Full-Face-Respirator-Medium?pricode=WY586&gadtype=pla&id=H-1471&gclid=CJa65KblhdICFdy1wAoddKUGew&gclsrc=aw.ds Edited February 10, 2017 by HandyDan Stick486 1 Quote
John Morris Posted February 10, 2017 Report Posted February 10, 2017 Dan, do these full masks provide for prescription glasses under them? Or is it even a concern, would the seal just go right over the arms of the glasses? Quote
Stick486 Posted February 10, 2017 Report Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, John Morris said: Dan, do these full masks provide for prescription glasses under them? Or is it even a concern, would the seal just go right over the arms of the glasses? yes and yes.... keep in mind that fresh filtered air is pumped into them... benefits out weigh the cost,,, Edited February 10, 2017 by Stick486 Gerald 1 Quote
John Morris Posted February 10, 2017 Report Posted February 10, 2017 Half mask with sealed safety glasses would be my choice, I just can't see using a full face mask for woodworking, I know I know, they are great, but it just seems too much. I can remove my half mask and still have use of my prescription safety glasses, I can change my glasses and still have use of my half mask. Just a personal preference. DuckSoup 1 Quote
John Morris Posted February 10, 2017 Report Posted February 10, 2017 5 minutes ago, Stick486 said: keep in mind that fresh filtered air is pumped into them... Overkill for woodworking. Unless you have severe medical conditions that require that level of woodworking safety. Quote
HandyDan Posted February 10, 2017 Report Posted February 10, 2017 Full face masks and sealed eyewear always battle the fogged lens situation too. Quote
John Morris Posted February 10, 2017 Report Posted February 10, 2017 7 minutes ago, HandyDan said: Full face masks and sealed eyewear always battle the fogged lens situation too. With a particulate dust mask and standard eye glasses I battle that situation, glasses get fogged. My next prescription glasses purchase is going to be the sealed safety glasses with prescription. The fogged lens would get so bad, I had to make a decision sometimes, dust mask, or glasses, glasses won all the time. If you do not need safety glasses, and your standard glasses are fine, the half masks do not leach air upwards thus fogging your glasses, since the exhale is ejected out the baffles near the filters away from your face, not up. Quote
Stick486 Posted February 10, 2017 Report Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) 16 minutes ago, John Morris said: Overkill for woodworking. Unless you have severe medical conditions that require that level of woodworking safety. for some there appears to be no issues... for others... major issues... me - PT and it's not allowed in the shop nor is MDF..... .... TOXIC WOODS CHART.pdf toxic_woods.pdf Wood_Toxicity_Chart.pdf Wood Species Reaction Area(s) Affected Potency Abura irritant, nausea, giddiness, and vomiting African Blackwood irritant, sensitizer African Boxwood irritant, headache, asthma Afrormosia irritant, nervous system effects, asthma, splinters go septic Afzelia irritant, sneezing Agba irritant Ailanthus irritant Albizia irritant, nausea, pink eye, giddiness, nose bleeds Alder (Alnus genus) irritant Alligator Juniper irritant Alpine Ash irritant Amboyna irritant, asthma Andiroba irritant, sneezing Araracanga irritant, asthma Ash (Fraxinus genus) irritant Ash, Mountain irritant Australian Blackwood irritant, sensitizer, asthma Australian Cashew Nut irritant, skin lesions, nosebleeds Avodire irritant, nose bleeds, internal bleeding, asthma Balsa irritant Bamboo irritant Batai irritant, sneezing Birch (Betula genus) irritant, sensitizer, nausea Black Cherry wheezing, giddiness Black Locust irritant, nausea Blackbean irritant Bloodwood irritant, excessive thirst, salivation, nausea Bloodwood, Red (Australian) irritant Blue Gum irritant Blue Mahoe sneezing Bocote cross reactions possible once sensitivity to other woods have developed Bosse irritant, sensitizer, asthma, nausea, headache Box, White irritant, rash Boxwood irritant, sensitizer Brazilwood irritant, headache, nausea, swelling skin, blisters Brigalow (Acacia harpophylla) irritant Brownheart irritant Bubinga irritant, lesions Buckthorn irritant, sap can cause dermatitis Bulletwood irritant Camphor irritant, asthma, headaches, giddiness Cashew irritant, sensitizer Catalpa irritant Cedar, Alaskan Yellow irritant Cedar, Aromatic Red irritant Cedar, Atlantic White irritant Cedar, Australian Red irritant, asthma, migraine, giddiness, bronchitis, stomach cramps, NPC (rare) Cedar, Incense irritant, rashes Cedar of Lebanon irritant, asthma, runny nose, respiratory disorders Cedar, Northern White irritant, asthma Cedar, Port Orford irritant, runny nose, asthma, kidney problems (diuresis) Cedar, Spanish irritant Cedar, Southern Red irritant Cedar, Western Red irritant, sensitizer, runny nose, asthma, nervous system effects, NPC (rare) Chechen irritant, sensitizer Chestnut, Chinese (Castanea mollissima) irritant Chestnut, Sweet irritant, sensitizer Chico Zapote irritant (nasal) Chinaberry irritant, headaches Cocobolo irritant, sensitizer, nausea, asthma, pink eye Cocuswood irritant Coolibah irritant Copaia irritant Crow’s Ash irritant Cuban Mahogany irritant Cypress sensitizer Cypress, Australian irritant, asthma, swelling of eyelids, boils, NPC (rare) Cypress, Gowen irritant Cypress, Leyland irritant Cypress, Mediterranean irritant, rashes, headaches Cypress, Mexican irritant Cypress, Monterey irritant Dahoma irritant, sensitizer Dead Finish (Acacia tetragonophylla) irritant, splinters go septic Douglas-fir irritant, giddiness, runny nose, splinters go septic, nausea Ebony (Diospyros genus) irritant, sensitizer, pink eye Ebony, Brown irritant Ebony, Macassar irritant, sensitizer Ekki irritant Elm (Ulmus genus) irritant, sensitizer, NPC (rare) European Beech irritant, sensitizer, NPC (rare) Eyoum irritant Fir (Abies genus) irritant Fir, Balsam irritant Freijo irritant, sensitizer, dryness/thirst Garapa irritant Gedu Nohor irritant Goncalo Alves sensitizer Grasstree irritant Greenheart sensitizer, wheezing, severe throat irritation, splinters go septic, cardiac and intestinal disorders Guanacaste irritant Gum, Lemon-Scented irritant Gum, Spotted irritant, rashes Gum, Yellow irritant Hackberry irritant Hemlock, Eastern irritant Hemlock, Mountain irritant Hemlock, Western irritant, runny nose, NPC (rare) Hophornbeam irritant Hornbeam (Carpinus genus) irritant Idigbo irritant Imbuia irritant Indian Beech (Pongamia pinnata) irritant Indian Laurel irritant Ipe irritant, headache, asthma, vision effects Iroko irritant, sensitizer, asthma, boils, giddiness, HP Ironwood, Desert irritant, sneezing, coughing Jacareuba irritant, fainting, insomnia, kidney damage Jarrah irritant Jatoba irritant Jelutong irritant Juniper, Phoenician (Juniperus phoenicea) irritant, headache, nausea Karri irritant Katalox irritant Keruing irritant Kingwood irritant, sensitizer, pink eye Koto irritant Laburnum constitutional effects (nausea, vomiting, headaches); direct toxin N/A Lacewood irritant Larch (Larix genus) irritant, hives, lesions Leadwood (Combretum genus) irritant Lebbeck irritant Lignum Vitae irritant Limba irritant, hives, splinters go septic, asthma, bleeding of the nose and gums Machiche irritant Magnolia (Magnolia genus) asthma, runny nose Mahogany, African irritant, sensitizer, NPC (rare) Mahogany, Honduran irritant, sensitizer, boils, nausea, giddiness, asthma, HP Mahogany, Santos irritant Makore irritant, nausea, headache, giddiness, nervous system and blood effects Mango irritant Mansonia irritant, sensitizer, nausea, sneezing, headaches, nosebleeds, splinters go septic, asthma, giddiness, cardiac disorders Maple (Acer genus) irritant, sensitizer, asthma; HP in spalted maple Maple, Queensland irritant Marupa irritant Meranti (Shorea genus) irritant Merbau irritant Mesquite (Prosopis genus) irritant Messmate irritant, asthma Milky Mangrove (Excoecaria agallocha) sap is poisonous, causes irritation to eyes and/or temporary blindness, headache, burning of throat, blistering of skin Mimosa irritant Missanda irritant, headache, giddiness, nausea, disorders of bowels and stomach Moabi irritant (mucous membranes) Molopangady (Breonia madagascariensis) irritant, sores Monkeypod irritant Mora irritant Movingui irritant Muhuhu irritant Mulga (Acacia aneura) irritant, headache, nausea, wood contains a virulent poisonous principle used for spear heads by aboriginals Muninga irritant, asthma, bronchitis Myrtle irritant, sensitizer Myrtle, Tasmanian irritant Narra irritant, asthma New Zealand White Pine irritant Norway Spruce irritant, asthma Nyatoh irritant Oak (Quercus genus) irritant, sensitizer, asthma, NPC (rare) Obeche irritant, sensitizer, runny nose, sneezing, hives, asthma Okoume irritant, cough, asthma, pink eye Oleander (Nerium oleander) irritant, nearly every part of the plant is toxic, cardiac effects Olive irritant, sensitizer Opepe irritant, sensitizer, nervous system effects Osage Orange irritant, sap can cause dermatitis Osage Orange, Argentine irritant, sap can cause dermatitis Padauk (Pterocarpus genus) irritant, sensitizer, nausea, asthma Palm (Arecaceae family) irritant, constitutional effects Parinari (Parinari genus) irritant Partridgewood irritant, hives, coughing Pau Ferro irritant, sensitizer Pau Marfim irritant Pau Rosa irritant Pau Santo irritant Peroba Rosa irritant, sensitizer, nausea, asthma Persimmon irritant Pheasantwood cavities in the wood can contain powder that is an irritant, skin discoloration Pine (Pinus genus) irritant, runny nose, asthma Pine, Huon irritant Pistachio irritant Poison Walnut (Cryptocarya pleurosperma) bark irritating to skin, dust may cause asthma, nausea, giddiness, sap is toxic and corrosive Poplar irritant, blisters, asthma, bronchitis Primavera irritant, sensitizer Purpleheart irritant, sensitizer, nausea Quebracho irritant, nausea, NPC (rare) Quina irritant Ramin irritant, splinters go septic, asthma Redwood irritant, sensitizer, asthma, HP, NPC (rare) Rengas sap is strongly irritating, blisters, ulcers, fever, constitutional effects Rhodesian Teak irritant Rose Butternut irritant, pink eye Rosewood (Dalbergia genus) irritant, sensitizer, asthma Rosewood, Brazilian irritant, sensitizer Rosewood, East Indian irritant, sensitizer Rosewood, Siamese irritant, rash, hives, sensitizer Rubberwood irritant, sensitizer (latex allergy) Saffron-Heart (Halfordia scleroxyloa) irritant, splinters go septic, lung congestion Sassafras sensitizer, nausea, respiratory, direct toxin, NPC (rare) Sapele irritant, sneezing Satinwood, East Indian irritant, headache, diarrhea, sensitizer Satinwood, West Indian irritant, diarrhea, rash, blisters, sensitizer Shittim (Acacia seyal) irritant, coughing Silky Oak, Northern irritant Silky Oak, Southern irritant, sap may cause blistering of skin, eyelid inflammation Sissoo irritant Slash Pine irritant, asthma Snakewood irritant Sneezewood irritant, oils within the wood cause violent sneezing Spruce (Picea genus) irritant, sensitizer Sucupira irritant Sugi unspecified allergenicity Sumac (Rhus genus) irritant, bark may cause blisters Sweetgum irritant Tambootie irritant, diarrhea, blindness, direct toxin Tatajuba irritant Teak irritant, sensitizer, rash, nausea, asthma, vision effects, pink eye, HP Thuya irritant Turpentine irritant, swelling Tzalam cold-like symptoms Utile irritant Verawood sneezing Walnut, African irritant, systemic effects, NPC (rare) Walnut, Black irritant, sensitizer, NPC (rare) Walnut, English irritant, NPC (rare) Wamara irritant Wenge irritant, sensitizer, splinters go septic, nervous system effects, abdominal cramps Western Hemlock irritant, NPC (rare) Western Juniper (Juniperus occidentalis) irritant White Peroba irritant, sensitizer, asthma Willow (Salix genus) sensitizer, nausea, NPC (rare) Yew (Taxus genus) irritant, nausea, headache, cardiac effects, direct toxin Yellowheart irritant Zebrawood sensitizer Ziricote cross reactions possible once sensitivity to other woods have developed Zitan irritant, vomiting Edited February 10, 2017 by Stick486 billpentz, HARO50 and Gerald 3 Quote
John Morris Posted February 10, 2017 Report Posted February 10, 2017 Hey, if you need that level of protection go for it, most would not I would wager. Quote
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.