I don't use much glue being a turner.  The last time I bought a bottle I got the Titebond III figuring it would be best all around.  I also use CA glue and some fast setting epoxy.  I went with Gorilla Glue epoxy because I like to mix small amounts at a time and was leery of the applicators of the other brands.  They are supposed to mix as they come out and I don't think that is a good idea. 

On 5/11/2014 at 1:09 PM, Gene Howe said:

Wonder if one could tint TB?

Actually, Gene, I believe that you can. PVA glues (like TB,  II, and III) are water based. I believe that you could probably use something like Trans Tint to modify the glue color. Watering down the glue is sometimes a necessity in some rare cases. Although it somewhat weakens the overall strength, used in conjunction with other strengthening/attachment methods will work. Adding a water soluble coloring agent should not affect the PVA at all. You're not adding water, only coloring what is there.

 

PVA can be diluted. As an example you can water down TB (10:1) and paint it on the edge of MDF to seal the pores. This prevents paint from soaking into the open pores of the MDF. I have, also, used drywall mud (spackling) to do the same thing. I would not rely on it as a strong bonding agent, though.

For most applications, I like Titebond 11. When gluing up Band saw boxes or box joints, I prefer Titebond 111 because it gives me more open time.. For outdoor use, I've found Gorilla glue or titebond 111 work well...

I'm pretty much a Titebond III guy and buy it by the gallons. I do keep some CA around when I do turn and epoxy for various uses.

8 minutes ago, John Moody said:

I'm pretty much a Titebond III guy and buy it by the gallons. I do keep some CA around when I do turn and epoxy for various uses.

would any of this help???

All types of glue.pdf

Ch09 ADHESIVE BONDING OF WOOD MATERIALS.pdf

glue-application-chart.pdf

GLUEING TROUBLESOME WOODS.pdf

Gluing Oily Exotic Woods.pdf

Hot Melt - Selection Chart.pdf

Weldbond Product Guide English (July 2009).pdf

8 hours ago, Stick486 said:

would any of this help???

All types of glue.pdf

Ch09 ADHESIVE BONDING OF WOOD MATERIALS.pdf

glue-application-chart.pdf

GLUEING TROUBLESOME WOODS.pdf

Gluing Oily Exotic Woods.pdf

Hot Melt - Selection Chart.pdf

Weldbond Product Guide English (July 2009).pdf

 

 

Sure thanks for the links! I'll bookmark them all.

 

43 minutes ago, John Moody said:

 

 

Sure thanks for the links! I'll bookmark them all.

 

Start your own Library...

I want to know if titebod is a sponsor of this site and if not why not.

 

1 hour ago, Michael Thuman said:

I want to know if titebod is a sponsor of this site and if not why not.

 

Great question Michael, hmmmm. They kind of do pretty good with woodworkers don't they? Titebond seems to be the go to, trust worthy glue for all around good gluing. 

This thread sure does seem like a promotion don't it! But I assure you it's not. Someday it would be nice to bring an additional sponsor or two to our community. We'll see. 

On 5/11/2014 at 5:54 PM, John Morris said:

Sorry Mark, semantics, yellow or light colored glue then, it's good practice to not use yellow glue on walnut or other dark species.

Tight Bond does make a dark glue for the darker species of woods. Hard to find sometimes,  but I used to see it at Home Depot. I haven't looked for it in awhile, though.

I have to add one more Titebond glue - Extended -

Was having trouble with TB II and III and E6600 keeping laminates glued to the back of some of my scrolling projects.  My local lumber supplier tald me to try the Extended TB.  Must keep pressure on the project for about 6 hours but the laminate now stays stuck.

44 minutes ago, schnewj said:

Tight Bond does make a dark glue for the darker species of woods. Hard to find sometimes,  but I used to see it at Home Depot. I haven't looked for it in awhile, though.

I think Titebond II is inherently darker than the predecessors isn't it Bill?

And they do have a "Dark" as well. 

27 minutes ago, John Morris said:

I think Titebond II is inherently darker than the predecessors isn't it Bill?

And they do have a "Dark" as well. 

I don't think that I have any II, I usually, use TB and III, so, I can't do a comparison.

 

Er, scratch, that above statement!  I found a 8oz of II in the workbench drawer. I spread a bead of each type on a piece of white paper and did a comparison.

 

The TB original is a yellow PVA,

The TB II is the same color as the original,

The TB III is the darker glue with a light chocolate tint to it.

 

So, on the darker wood you could probably use the III and be able to hide it a little better then the original and II. The downside is it is a few cents more to use if your cost conscious. I worry more about open time and water resistance. Most of my shop cabinets/stands utilize III because of the humidity. It is more of a preference thing, rather than a necessity for me. I just feel a little more confident using the III.

13 minutes ago, schnewj said:

I don't think that I have any II, I usually, use TB and III, so, I can't do a comparison.

 

Er, scratch, that above statement!  I found a 8oz of II in the workbench drawer. I spread a bead of each type on a piece of white paper and did a comparison.

 

The TB original is a yellow PVA,

The TB II is the same color as the original,

The TB III is the darker glue with a light chocolate tint to it.

 

So, on the darker wood you could probably use the III and be able to hide it a little better then the original and II. The downside is it is a few cents more to use if your cost conscious. I worry more about open time and water resistance. Most of my shop cabinets/stands utilize III because of the humidity. It is more of a preference thing, rather than a necessity for me. I just feel a little more confident using the III.

Your absolutely right, I use III as well, especially in working with darker woods. I knew it was either II or III that was the darker than the standard. Thanks for clarifying that.

It has been awhile since I had a bottle of the dark glue, but in thinking about it, I don't remember it being any darker then the III. This may be the reason why you don't, readily, find it in the stores.

 

I'll have to remember to see if Lowe's or HD carry the dark glue the next time I'm there. However, I suspect, that, the darker TB III may be a replacement for it.

 

Hmmm, I'll look at the TB website after lunch and see if they still make it.

24 minutes ago, schnewj said:

It has been awhile since I had a bottle of the dark glue, but in thinking about it, I don't remember it being any darker then the III. This may be the reason why you don't, readily, find it in the stores.

 

I'll have to remember to see if Lowe's or HD carry the dark glue the next time I'm there. However, I suspect, that, the darker TB III may be a replacement for it.

 

Hmmm, I'll look at the TB website after lunch and see if they still make it.

I just goggled Titebond II dark wood glue - It popped up for sale at Zoro's, Wal-Mart, Amazon and Rockler .

 

Just an FYI

Apparently, they don't make a dark wood glue. Just Titebond original, II, III and hide glue.

 

The real interesting things, is, TB recommends II for dark woods. I really have to question that recommendation after comparing the color of all three.

2 minutes ago, Chips N Dust said:

I just goggled Titebond II dark wood glue - It popped up for sale at Zoro's, Wal-Mart, Amazon and Rockler .

 

Just an FYI

I must have missed something on the website. I didn't see a "dark glue" listed. However, it now makes sense why they recommend II for dark wood. They have to have a dark TB II glue someplace.

 

Thanks, Kelly.

4 minutes ago, schnewj said:

The real interesting things, is, TB recommends II for dark woods. I really have to question that recommendation after comparing the color of all three.

Ya what's up with that! Had to of been a typo.

Found it!

 

http://www.titebond.com/product.aspx?id=0d8d5e20-0660-45f6-a61e-69ada5b855b0

Edited August 30, 20169 yr by schnewj