3 minutes ago, HandyDan said:

 

I have helped a friend put this stuff down.  I think it will stick to ice.  It sticks to everything including you and doesn't come off.

The only thing we found that would get it off was gasoline, and that took a couple of times to get it off our hands. The best bet is to wear clothes that you'll throw away after working with this stuff.

2 minutes ago, Larry Buskirk said:

The only thing we found that would get it off was gasoline, and that took a couple of times to get it off our hands. The best bet is to wear clothes that you'll throw away after working with this stuff.

It comes off faster if you light the gas.

Herb

1 minute ago, Dadio said:

It comes off faster if you light the gas.

Herb

 

2 minutes ago, Dadio said:

It comes off faster if you light the gas.

Herb

Herb, your wit never lets me down, I have laughed many times at your humor, this morning I leave you all, and I head out for the day, with a very powerful SNORK happening right now. Signing out, and with a big smile and belly laugh that woke our neighbors, see ya'll

Cya!

2 hours ago, John Morris said:

so we are looking for a temporary fix

for a little longer than temporary..

paint a little on as a glue base and immediately add a layer of mesh fabric.. lap your fabric 3~4''...

fabric comes in 6~60'' widths.. suggest you use 24~36'' wide..

don't let the base coat set up or dry or try to do too much at once..

WORD OF WARNING!!!

wet, this stuff is slicker than deer guts on a door knob... step in it - and you are leaving the roof...

repaint w/ a final top coating...

if you hit the leak source you can come back some time in the next decade or two and really fix it if you think it needs it...

wear disposable you..

turps for cleanup..

Elastomeric roof coating

Edited December 7, 20187 yr by Stick486

https://us.henry.com/resources/videos

the fabric/mesh...

2 hours ago, John Morris said:

Herb, your wit never lets me down, I have laughed many times at your humor, this morning I leave you all, and I head out for the day, with a very powerful SNORK happening right now. Signing out, and with a big smile and belly laugh that woke our neighbors, see ya'll

Hope your day is warmer than mine,21 degrees

Herb

7 minutes ago, Dadio said:

Hope your day is warmer than mine,21 degrees

Herb

wanna trade???

50°

Up at Dad's right now and shot a few images of his roof earlier. @Dadio, it's just like you said, whoever put this roof on nailed off all the edges instead of just the perimeter, causing the rolled roofing to buckle and wrinkle, those wrinkles turned into cracks, and then turned into leaks.

 

The darker tone is old patch that has been spread around, the darker area in the middle is wet, and that is where it's leaking, that is the low spot on the roof and the water is pooling there. The stack of rocks on the left is holding down a cover to a recently removed stove pipe from an old Ben Franklin stove that Dad used to heat the place up during the winter, and he also used the stove to heat up soup when the power would go out during storms which is frequently, now, I don't know what he plans on doing, but he got rid of the stove.

 

Since we are walking around Dad's home, here are some images of his adobe. He is a single guy, he taught me to work the wood when I was just a wee lad. Here is the shop he and I built in 2005, holding up great, it hasn't been touched or modified or painted since we built it, so it was built well! 2x6 framing on a 8" slab, hey, we just went big cuz we could. It seemed to have paid off.

 

Meet dad's home, a 1960's single wide, painted greenish tan to blend in with the hills. The addon is on the other side, this is the front. The dog, is his boxer Suzie. Just a little background history, dad is partial to trailers, firstly they are economical to buy, and, he and I lived in one that was parked in an alley behind a friends home, when I was just a kid, actually it was half the size of the current trailer pictured here.

And we were quite the pair in that lil ol trailer, wherever I went he was there, wherever he went, I was there, we could never get out of each-others way in that lil trailer, but, father and son, we were and still are. We lived in that old trailer up till I was out of High School and joined the Army. So he still has a bond to trailers, many good times we had in the old one many years ago, and when I walk into this one, I remember the closeness I had with my dad by actually being so close all the time with him. A ton of good times, and a ton of challenges, I would not trade it for anything.

 

Panoramic view of the valley from the top of his roof, this is also the view from the addon out his window, as he watches tv and engulfs his TV dinners, hey, at 85 yrs old, he can live how he wants, and eat what he wants! There's the ol man at the lower right of the image, inspecting the roof.

 

Panoramic view out the front way, off the top of his roof, the white above the hills in the background is the San Bernardino Mt Range snow capped.

 

Thanks for following along the tour of my Dad's place, it's cold up here today, if it rained it would snow. And thanks again guys for your help with the coatings and reconstruction advice, we both appreciate it much!

@John Morris

Thanks for the tour and the history, I could just visualize your childhood.

That is how my Ded lived his later years, only he had a 20' Travel trailer. He built a 40X 40 shop ,he did metal working,and welding. And he built 16'X30' lean-to on a concrete slab for his living quarters. It had a 3-12 sloping roof with roll roofing and later I put corrugated aluminum over the roll roofing. He lived there til he was 89 and lost his eye sight,and then moved in with my sister. When he was 94 he passed away.

 

I like the location you Dad has and that clear mountain air probably agrees with him.

 

His roof is in bad shape, I hope he can stop the leaks,

 

Herb

There are UV protected tarps out there too.  15X15 is easy enough to cover with one. 

13 hours ago, John Morris said:

causing the rolled roofing to buckle and wrinkle,

slit them and patch the slits w/ membrane and product as listed in the links I gave ya..

membrane/seal the whole dark area plus..

after the leaking area is done and the slits you made coat the entire roof w/ sealer/coating and membrane to make for a monolithic sheet....

Edited December 8, 20187 yr by Stick486

Thanks Stick!

3 minutes ago, John Morris said:

Thanks Stick!

no problem..

I did go back and edit for clarity...

On 12/7/2018 at 7:56 AM, Dadio said:

I would think that would last a long time. I don't know what size the roof is but roll roofing is pretty economical and could be done in a day. Like Gene says it is not the best for a flat roof but there are miles of flat roofed large buildings  w/parapets that are roll roofing covered with tar. And since this roof has held up for several years a new layer should last just as long. Usually leaks occur when roll roofing is laid tacked down all way around. Then as the temperature changes it forms wrinkles, these become hardened and eventually crack and cause leaks. A roof properly laid with the top edge nailed only, can expand and contract during changes in temperature and not wrinkle, and will last a long time. (Be sure to lap the top edge) Then at a later date if you feel so inclined , you can cut some long wedge shaped joist and lay on top of the roof and sheath with plywood and install 3 tab, or corrugated metal roofing.

Herb

Herb 3 tab is for 4:12 or more pitch only.  Sheet metal can go down to 1.5:12 given the roof is 15' x 15' then 3 tab  the wedge on the high side should be 5' or with metal 2'    The best permanent solution is rubber sheet properly terminated.

1 hour ago, Michael Thuman said:

Herb 3 tab is for 4:12 or more pitch only.  Sheet metal can go down to 1.5:12 given the roof is 15' x 15' then 3 tab  the wedge on the high side should be 5' or with metal 2'    The best permanent solution is rubber sheet properly terminated.

You are right, I stand corrected.

Herb

2 hours ago, Michael Thuman said:

The best permanent solution is rubber sheet properly terminated.

can the roof hold the weight???

repair roof...

add EPDM..

add coating...

add rock... exposed EPDM doesn't last...

On 12/11/2018 at 1:13 PM, Stick486 said:

add rock... exposed EPDM doesn't last...

forgot to add..

the rock needs to be round river rock of stay put size...

any rock w/ edges will cut into the EDPM...

I wish to thank everyone for their in depth expertise and advice for this problem we were having. The roof coatings suggested in this topic by many of you, were not available at the time we needed them, at Lowes nor HD. I looked into getting the Black Jack coating shipped but the shipping was more expensive than the coating itself.

 

So I head up the mountain, hitting Home Depot on the way up, to look for any coating, any coating at all that seemed reasonable in price, and a good application for our needs. So while walking up and down the HD isle of roof coatings, and with Dad on the phone, we settled on this:

I delivered it up the hill, and I walked it up the ladder to the roof as pops has lost much strength in his old arms, but that is as far as I could go with it, he wanted to do the rest of the work, fine by me! He took an old paint roller and applied the coating, it went on nice and thick, and dried completely in a day or two, and we had a huge rain last week and so far, it held! Not a leak in sight!

He did however prep the surface first with Henry's wetpatch, he did slit and nail down the badly buckled areas, wet patch the slits, and then applied the coating.

 

We will revisit this roof in the spring, we are going to do a full tear off, and inspect the wood, and reinstall a rolled roofing system using Herbs sage advice about the nail pattern. Thanks all again, we ended up using a little bit of everybody's input here to get him dry again, thanks!