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Shop Electricity Issue

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Put a fused jumper between the pallet racking and the driven ground and see what happens.  Is the neutral disconnected at the source also ?  Check neutral to driven ground at the house also.  Roly

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  • Fred W. Hargis Jr
    Fred W. Hargis Jr

    Ya' know, some folks think that about Satellite TV signals as well.

  • The ones behind us sag a lot between the supports. I'm guessing that at their lowest, they're at about 30' off the terrain. I've walked under them and the hair on my arms feels like they're stiffening

  • Larry Buskirk
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    I had that, and cable shut off about 5-6 years ago. I still get at least 3-4 offers per month to come back.  I love the look on the sales people face at Best Buy, etc. when they give us thei

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The whole wire was pulled out... Both hots.... neutral .... and the ground....

Not enough amp to light a bulb. Just enough to shock you....

You got power lines over any of the buildings? Metal pipes in/to the building.

No metal pipes but there is power lines behind the barn...

On 10/5/2019 at 6:25 PM, Kevin Beitz said:

No metal pipes but there is power lines behind the barn...

When you say power lines are these transmission lines of very high voltage or are they house supply line at 3K?

 

7,500 volts....

7.5K may have enough of a field to energize something metal near by.  Is the barn roof metal and not grounded?

 

We have 6 ea. 7.5k lines at our property line. They're about 300 yds from my shop and house. Both have a metal roof. Neither are grounded. Maybe due to distance but, we've not experienced any wandering electrons. My BIL, a big gear electrician, claimed that if you stood under the lines holding a florescent tube, it would light. He also claimed that he could build an apparatus to grab that free floating stuff and power my shop. There must be some validity to his claims because the company's monthly bills often have a warning about theft of their product. I talked to one of the company's employees and, he said that theoretically it was possible but, he'd advise against it. 

 

1 hour ago, Gene Howe said:

There must be some validity to his claims because the company's monthly bills often have a warning about theft of their product.

I don't think they could call it theft if you just pulled it out of the air above your own land...

3 hours ago, Gene Howe said:

We have 6 ea. 7.5k lines at our property line. They're about 300 yds from my shop and house. Both have a metal roof. Neither are grounded. Maybe due to distance but, we've not experienced any wandering electrons. My BIL, a big gear electrician, claimed that if you stood under the lines holding a florescent tube, it would light. He also claimed that he could build an apparatus to grab that free floating stuff and power my shop. There must be some validity to his claims because the company's monthly bills often have a warning about theft of their product. I talked to one of the company's employees and, he said that theoretically it was possible but, he'd advise against it. 

 

You would have to be very close to the 7200 volt line to light a florescent lamp.   7.2 kv is a normal distribution voltage that does not cause any problems like that, when you get up in the range of 138 kv and 345 kv you can dimly get a lamp to light and that is in a switch yard where it is a lot closer to the ground that any area where the public is exposed to it.  Not  familiar with any of the 700-800 kv systems.   Roly    ( don't try getting very close to it to try it ) 

3 hours ago, Gene Howe said:

There must be some validity to his claims because the company's monthly bills often have a warning about theft of their product

 

If they're just letting it spew out in the air it should be finders keepers.

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4 minutes ago, HandyDan said:

 

If they're just letting it spew out in the air it should be finders keepers.

Ya' know, some folks think that about Satellite TV signals as well.:Laughing:

1 hour ago, Roly said:

You would have to be very close to the 7200 volt line to light a florescent lamp.   7.2 kv is a normal distribution voltage that does not cause any problems like that, when you get up in the range of 138 kv and 345 kv you can dimly get a lamp to light and that is in a switch yard where it is a lot closer to the ground that any area where the public is exposed to it.  Not  familiar with any of the 700-800 kv systems.   Roly    ( don't try getting very close to it to try it ) 

The ones behind us sag a lot between the supports. I'm guessing that at their lowest, they're at about 30' off the terrain. I've walked under them and the hair on my arms feels like they're stiffening. 

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50 minutes ago, Fred W. Hargis Jr said:

Ya' know, some folks think that about Satellite TV signals as well.:Laughing:

I had that, and cable shut off about 5-6 years ago.

I still get at least 3-4 offers per month to come back. 

I love the look on the sales people face at Best Buy, etc. when they give us their sales pitch, and we say no thank you, been there done that. Then they ask what service we're using now, and we reply two antennas. 93 free channels that we don't watch half of anyway.

When I had a day job, one of the fellows in our group was forever spending time trying to hack the satellite signal. He had a tuner, but had to get the code (I probably don't remember all this correctly) to put in his card to dicepher and watch the programming. He cracked it several times, but the satellite company kept changing the code regularly. So he'd have to go through the whole process again. Apparently there is a lot of info about this on the internet  from fellow hijackers. Anyway, I mentioned that maybe he should just subscribe...his response was that "if they were going to beam those signals onto his property he should be free to use it". Reminded me of Dan's statement above about finders-keepers.

A few years back there was a guy on Ebay! that was selling a tuner card for satellite that hooked to your computer, and didn't require a code. I think he's doing 5-10 now.

5 hours ago, Gene Howe said:

We have 6 ea. 7.5k lines at our property line. They're about 300 yds from my shop and house. Both have a metal roof. Neither are grounded. Maybe due to distance but, we've not experienced any wandering electrons. My BIL, a big gear electrician, claimed that if you stood under the lines holding a florescent tube, it would light. He also claimed that he could build an apparatus to grab that free floating stuff and power my shop. There must be some validity to his claims because the company's monthly bills often have a warning about theft of their product. I talked to one of the company's employees and, he said that theoretically it was possible but, he'd advise against it. 

 

Would putting in an earth ground and connecting that to the pallet rack stop the shocks?  Any concerns?

 

@Kevin Beitz, I think this was meant for you.

3 hours ago, Michael Thuman said:

Would putting in an earth ground and connecting that to the pallet rack stop the shocks?  Any concerns?

 

 

7 hours ago, Michael Thuman said:

Would putting in an earth ground and connecting that to the pallet rack stop the shocks?  Any concerns?

Maybe, but I still am stumped on how he has half of line voltage.  He disconnected all the wires going to the shop yet still has the 64 volts.  How?  And why half line voltage?  So somewhere a ground or a common wire has touched the power wire, or black wire if done correctly.  The high voltage lines would not give a 1/2 line voltage reading.  Would be as spike, maybe even let the smoke out of a wire.  :D  

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