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A push button depth stop for my benchtop drill press.

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    Not an engineering genius by any stretch of the imagination (nor do I play one on TV) but, could you thread the 1/4" hole and basically 'bolt' the part to the table then cut the 12mm hole later?

  • If only I could go back in time.  Woke up this morning realizing since I already had a 1/4" hole center where the 12mm hole needed to be, I could have created a toolpath to plunge in the hole with no

  • Got the elliptical pocket and spring socket cut.  Other than softening the sharp corners with a little filed chamfer this part is done.  I drilled a center hole using my drill press before putting the

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Did you notice the download for the MACH3 is an MP3 file? Checked it with Chrome and Edge?

2 minutes ago, lew said:

Did you notice the download for the MACH3 is an MP3 file? Checked it with Chrome and Edge?

The cncdrive.comUC100.html website triggers Malwarebytes browser guard states blocked due to suspicious activity. 

8 minutes ago, Larry Buskirk said:

The cncdrive.comUC100.html website triggers Malwarebytes browser guard states blocked due to suspicious activity. 

Firefox returns mp3. 

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Now you are making me Hungary.  ;)

 

@4DThinker

Being Mach3 is older software I'm thinking it might require .NET Framework 3.5 .

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Happy day, Happy day! :D

.NET framework made it play.

Had a rough block to mill square,

Drew up toolpaths next to there.

Loaded g-code in mach3

Watched my mill work perfectly.

The results were no disgrace.

caused this smile upon my face.  :)

 

I'd like to thank every one of you.

For helping me get through,

This frustrating trial

That ended with a smile!

20 minutes ago, lew said:

Burma-Shave. :)

:throbbinghead::ROFL::throbbinghead:

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Now all I need to do is find the brass bar I had.  I've got lots of aluminum scraps to play with.  Brass was what proved I should consider getting a milling machine rather than try and cut it with my Probotix CNC

It'll take me a moment or two get used to jogging on the mill.  Jog left -X and the table moves right +X,  Jog +Y away from the front and the table moves -Y toward the front.  Secret of milling metal I see is keeping the bit rigidly in place other than Z action and moving the beefy X/Y table underneath with the material securely clamped in place.  

 

I've got a shop vac hose end with magnets on the bottom that I thought I could stick to the bed and let run while the CNC cut.  The bed however isn't magnetic.  It also isn't aluminum or lightweight which leaves me puzzled.  Anyone have a guess what they would have made it from? 

 

Last item tonight was that I finally put to use an AC/DC control relay I bought a few year back.  I bought it to use with my Probotix CNC to turn on the shop vac when a job started.  Using the vacuum mount provide by Probotix though tended to suck brush strands up to block the hose so I gave up using it.  Put it to use to turn on and off the spindle motor when a job starts and stops.  Took an 8-pin plug, some solder and speaker cable to hook up to the CNC controller.   The relay has two AC outlets normally off and two that are normally on, which switch with a signal from the controller.  I can hook up the shop vac to the second normally off outlet.  Having a hard time imagining what I might want to turn off when the CNC starts up. 

4D  

4D - glad to see that you have maybe gotten it sorted out and are on a "new" journey!

Excuse my ignorance and question here, I have no experience with either milling/CNC machines.  Would there be any danger of those metal fillings/chips being hot from this process?  Just thinking about your vacuuming up hot metal into a container you cannot see into...

9 hours ago, 4DThinker said:

It'll take me a moment or two get used to jogging on the mill.  Jog left -X and the table moves right +X,  Jog +Y away from the front and the table moves -Y toward the front.

I'll have to see if I can find the article I read that addressed the reversed commands again.

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18 minutes ago, Larry Buskirk said:

I'll have to see if I can find the article I read that addressed the reversed commands again.

Don't worry.  It is all relative. As the Z axis doesn't move, the table has to move under it.  Jog right +X and the table  moves to the left  -X so the bit moves right +X relative to the material.  Jog +Y away and the table has to move -Y forward so the bit moves away +Y relative to the material.  All to make sure what happens to the material matches what my CNC software wants it to.  The initial confusion was seeing the table move right when I jogged left. Of course jogging is not about the table but about the bit movement relative to the material clamped to the table. 

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1 hour ago, Cal said:

 Would there be any danger of those metal fillings/chips being hot from this process?  Just thinking about your vacuuming up hot metal into a container you cannot see into...

If feeds and speeds are set right then whatever heat is generated gets flung away with each chip. Bit used should stay relatively cool, and chips individually shouldn't have much heat likely loosing it to the air as they fly.  Not enough to leave burn marks on the wood bench top or throw sparks anyway.  

That may change when I start cutting steel.  I don't expect sparks but the chips may be hotter.  Most CNC mills that regularly cut steel have a coolant mist spraying on the cut area during cuts.   I think this is more about lubricating the cut than drawing away heat, but I am also new to CNC milling.  When I was a student the milling machine was manual.  I have no memory of encountering hot chips from those days.  It occurs to me that the spray might have been to make sure the bit didn't get too hot as it is involved with every cut, while each chip only spends a fraction of time in the heat of being cut before it gets flung away. 

 

Right now I just vacuum up chips after the CNC is done. I've got a fire extinguisher in the room if anything decides to flame up. 

2 hours ago, 4DThinker said:

Don't worry.  It is all relative. As the Z axis doesn't move, the table has to move under it.  Jog right +X and the table  moves to the left  -X so the bit moves right +X relative to the material.  Jog +Y away and the table has to move -Y forward so the bit moves away +Y relative to the material.  All to make sure what happens to the material matches what my CNC software wants it to.  The initial confusion was seeing the table move right when I jogged left. Of course jogging is not about the table but about the bit movement relative to the material clamped to the table. 

Forgot we were talking about a cnc mill instead of a cnc router. :BangingHead:

 

I've been looking at some of the desktop cnc routers, a bit out of my retirement pay grade. :unsure:

 

 

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2 hours ago, Larry Buskirk said:

I've been looking at some of the desktop cnc routers, a bit out of my retirement pay grade. :unsure:

I guess I'm fortunate to have invested in CNC(s) before I retired.  Having worked for the State of KS teaching for 40+ years I have a decent retirement account that I haven't touched yet. Thought I'd see how far I could get living just off SS and a decent savings account first.  So far the savings account has been getting larger so when that happens I treat myself with a new toy. 

Don't know what sort of budget you have, but there are CNCs in just about every price range.   Find one that uses a trim router instead of a small DC motor as the spindle and you should be able to do most of what I can do with my CNCs, or actually make some money to justify the purchase with by selling CNC cut projects at craft shows and online.  HonestJohn seems to have found an outlet for the projects he carves with his CNCs. 

It seems like when I look I like some features of one machine over another. 

Might just try to drive myself nuts building one with the features I like versus having to modify something to get those features. 

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The mechanical parts of generic CNCs are the easy part.  Making or finding a controller to drive the stepper motors is where the nuts start impose themselves.  I've built two CNCs from scratch just to see if I could. One I programmed to make 1/4 scale parts from full scale g-code.  I required my students to make 1/4 scale models of their furniture design proposals for their first critique.  Thought using a 1/4 scale CNC with full scale g-code might be easier than remembering to rescale parts for the models. 

The second CNC I built sits in a corner of my basement CNC room.  With larger steppers and ball screws on all axes I couldn't get it to work with the same tinyG controller I used on the 1/4 scale CNC.   This one has just 18" x 18" of cutting area, but was intended for mostly vertical and angled joinery cuts clamped inside the cutting area. 

After that you need CAD software to draw up parts and generate the toolpath G-code with and CAM software to feed the G-code to the CNC.  The CNC Shark I started with came with VCarve for the CAD half, and proprietary software to feed g-code to their CNCs..  Building your own leaves it to you to come up with both programs. 

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1 hour ago, Larry Buskirk said:

It seems like when I look I like some features of one machine over another. 

Might just try to drive myself nuts building one with the features I like versus having to modify something to get those features. 

Curious what features you like that you can't find all in one CNC?   Or at least in one CNC you can afford?  

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