Popular Post Steve Krumanaker Posted March 8, 2021 Popular Post Report Posted March 8, 2021 I got into some spalted cherry on the my latest batch of decorative tea jar lids. Unfortunately I only had enough for 8 or 10 lids. Would like to find a whole log of this, it's some pretty wood. Cal, Gerald, DuckSoup and 6 others 9 Quote
RustyFN Posted March 8, 2021 Report Posted March 8, 2021 That is some nice looking wood. lew, Cal, Gunny and 1 other 4 Quote
HandyDan Posted March 8, 2021 Report Posted March 8, 2021 It does look pretty and you brought it from the ruff and made it prettier. FlGatorwood, Cal and Gunny 3 Quote
Masonsailor Posted March 9, 2021 Report Posted March 9, 2021 Nice wood ! I don’t think I have ever seen spalted cherry. Mother Nature has a way of making some beautiful wood. Paul FlGatorwood and Cal 2 Quote
Larry Cutlip Posted March 9, 2021 Report Posted March 9, 2021 May I ask what finish you use on your lids? Thanks Larry Cal and FlGatorwood 2 Quote
Steve Krumanaker Posted March 10, 2021 Author Report Posted March 10, 2021 12 hours ago, Larry Cutlip said: May I ask what finish you use on your lids? Thanks Larry Larry, these are sanded to 300 grit with an ROS. Two coats of spray can shellac for a seal coat. Sanded, and then sprayed with two wet coats of Target Coatings, EM6000 water borne production lacquer. FlGatorwood, DuckSoup, HandyDan and 1 other 4 Quote
Larry Cutlip Posted March 10, 2021 Report Posted March 10, 2021 Do you think the EM6000 is a stronger finish than brush on or spray can lacquer? Cal and FlGatorwood 2 Quote
Steve Krumanaker Posted March 11, 2021 Author Report Posted March 11, 2021 32 minutes ago, Larry Cutlip said: Do you think the EM6000 is a stronger finish than brush on or spray can lacquer? I have not done any side by side comparisons as to durability. What I have done over the years is to spray a few hundred gallons of nitrocellulose as a professional and hobbyist re finisher. It is the finish I cut my teeth on and never thought anything would replace it for me. A few years ago someone recommended the EM6000 to me and I told him I'd tried water borne finishes before and they weren't any good. He said I'd never tried one like this. Against my better judgement I ordered a gallon, tried it and haven't looked back. It is simply the most forgiving, easiest to apply finish I have ever used. It flows out nicely and is ready to recoat in about 20 minutes. I have sprayed it under heavy humidity, on rainy days, middle of the summer and middle of the winter, it just works. I put on a wet, heavy coat and have never had a problem with runs or sags, 4 coats will pretty much fill walnut grain. Back to the strength or durability question. The manufacturer states it is comparable to nitrocellulose and I have no reason to dispute that claim. Gunny, FlGatorwood and Cal 2 1 Quote
Gerald Posted March 11, 2021 Report Posted March 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Steve Krumanaker said: A few years ago someone recommended the EM6000 to me and I told him I'd tried water borne finishes before and they weren't any good. He said I'd never tried one like this. Against my better judgement I ordered a gallon, tried it and haven't looked back. It is simply the most forgiving, easiest to apply finish I have ever used. It flows out nicely and is ready to recoat in about 20 minutes. You may use more than I do but with lacquer may use a quart in 8 months. So to the point how well does the EM6000 keep? Gunny, Cal, HandyDan and 1 other 4 Quote
Popular Post Steve Krumanaker Posted March 11, 2021 Author Popular Post Report Posted March 11, 2021 10 hours ago, Gerald said: You may use more than I do but with lacquer may use a quart in 8 months. So to the point how well does the EM6000 keep? Hi Gerald. You may remember I was absent from here for around a year, maybe a little more. During that time I was also absent from my shop. It happened that I had an opened can of EM6000 that sat under my bench during that period, of course it was sealed but had been opened and partially used. I looked at my order history with Target Coatings and my last purchase was in July of 2018, so that can was opened near that date. I don't have another order with them until January of this year when I needed more. I finished out that can that had sat for well over a year after being opened and it sprayed like it was fresh so I would have to say it keeps very well. The only thing I'd caution about it is, it's water borne and so must be protected from freezing. HandyDan, Gerald, Cal and 2 others 4 1 Quote
Fred W. Hargis Jr Posted March 11, 2021 Report Posted March 11, 2021 I know at one time Jeff Jewitt gave all waterborne finishes a shelf life of 2 years, whether it had been opened or not. Like Steve, I've had some Target product (this was the old PSL stuff some years ago) keep longer than that. FlGatorwood, Gunny, Cal and 1 other 4 Quote
HandyDan Posted March 11, 2021 Report Posted March 11, 2021 I have some brushing laquer that has kept for a few years. never skims over either. Gunny, Cal and FlGatorwood 3 Quote
Gunny Posted March 11, 2021 Report Posted March 11, 2021 35 minutes ago, HandyDan said: I have some brushing laquer that has kept for a few years. never skims over either. Same here. I do keep the temperature stable though. FlGatorwood, HandyDan and Cal 3 Quote
PostalTom Posted March 11, 2021 Report Posted March 11, 2021 Steve, I looked at the web site for the EM6000, and they mentioned 100% burn-in functionality. What does that mean? Cal and FlGatorwood 1 1 Quote
Popular Post Steve Krumanaker Posted March 11, 2021 Author Popular Post Report Posted March 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, PostalTom said: Steve, I looked at the web site for the EM6000, and they mentioned 100% burn-in functionality. What does that mean? I believe they are referring to separate coats re amalgamating or melding together, not sure but I think that's it. It's one of the things that make a lacquer finish so deep and rich. With varnish or polyurethane once it's set up it's done. Following coats have a mechanical bond but not a chemical bond so every coat lays on top of the previous coat. So, if you put on eight coats you have a finish that is 8 separate layers. With lacquer, and some other solvent based finishes successive coats dissolve and meld into the previous coats. So, if you put on eight coats you end up with one layer eight coats deep. Gerald, PostalTom, FlGatorwood and 2 others 3 2 Quote
Larry Cutlip Posted March 11, 2021 Report Posted March 11, 2021 Thanks Steve, for all that information. Larry Cal and FlGatorwood 2 Quote
HandyDan Posted March 11, 2021 Report Posted March 11, 2021 @Steve Krumanaker, does it also mean it isn't necessary to sand between coats? FlGatorwood and Cal 2 Quote
RustyFN Posted March 11, 2021 Report Posted March 11, 2021 19 minutes ago, Steve Krumanaker said: I believe they are referring to separate coats re amalgamating or melding together, not sure but I think that's it. It's one of the things that make a lacquer finish so deep and rich. With varnish or polyurethane once it's set up it's done. Following coats have a mechanical bond but not a chemical bond so every coat lays on top of the previous coat. So, if you put on eight coats you have a finish that is 8 separate layers. With lacquer, and some other solvent based finishes successive coats dissolve and meld into the previous coats. So, if you put on eight coats you end up with one layer eight coats deep. Very interesting. Cal, FlGatorwood and Gunny 3 Quote
Steve Krumanaker Posted March 12, 2021 Author Report Posted March 12, 2021 1 hour ago, HandyDan said: @Steve Krumanaker, does it also mean it isn't necessary to sand between coats? Exactly, I always give it a feel but very, very seldom do I sand between finish coats. FlGatorwood, Gunny and Cal 2 1 Quote
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