17 minutes ago, Artie said:

Spline? You mean like biscuits?

as in spline...

use BB ply for that type of glue up......

Making & Using Splines.pdf

 

23 minutes ago, Artie said:

If it creates a bigger mess

you are using way too much glue...

wax your cauls too...

25 minutes ago, Grandpadave52 said:

new shop stools

Art is holding them for me...

1 hour ago, Grandpadave52 said:

Kwool Artie...great to see you're expanding your horizons.

Stick's correct...buy a roll or two of plain 'ole wax paper for the shop...use that as your barrier between the wood clamps and the glue up. You can keep your cupcakes dust free until break time too.

Interesting cutter guard feature on the SS jointer; also a feather board...

Get new shop stools for Christmas? Those are snazzy...like 'em.

I will remember the wax paper trick. The red stools were on sale at Christmas time, from Woodcraft (maybe Rockler, but I think Woodcraft). 1/2 price, but honestly not that comfortable). Yeah it’s time to do new things, all goes well tomorrow I’m making the rails and maybe the raised panel edges  

I will use splines when making the mitered corners. That was a nice piece of learning there, thank you Mr Stick.

miter corners w/ splines ya say...

 

Artie, before you go for it with the stiles, rails and raised panels, I'd recommend that you practice a bit with some scraps of wood. Might save a bit of frustration later.

Stick, I believe Artie is planning to cut the corners 45 degrees like the door in the photo he included. Same principle but the boards will be laying flat with a square edge.

28 minutes ago, Stick486 said:

miter corners w/ splines ya say...

 

Stick, I believe he will be making the miters on the corners on the flat corners of stiles and rails . Not as pictured here. He plans to cut the corners 45 degrees

5 minutes ago, It Was Al B said:

I believe he will be making the miters on the corners on the flat corners of stiles and rails . Not as pictured here. He plans to cut the corners 45 degrees

agreed...

just giving him some ''food for thought''....

12 hours ago, Stick486 said:

agreed...

just giving him some ''food for thought''....

Yum! he said food!

3 minutes ago, Artie said:

Yum! he said food!

use BB for the splines...

strong and very stable..

for contrast ... dip the end of the spline in stain or dye color of your choice before glue up...

 

FWIW... Sash...

 

So I’m going over this in my head. Assuming the rails and styles I’m making fit, and the 2 pieces of Polar I’ve glued up will plane perfectly flat, that leaves me with fitting the raised panel into the framework. The question I’m leading up to is if we leave space (which is why we use the space balls/backer rod to make adjustments for) do I need to put a least one coat of paint on the panel before I assemble it? I mean it is winter time here in the NE region, and the panel wil most likely only expand in the future, not contract more than it is now, but if I paint it after assembly, can’t it contract to where unpainted surface could appear? These are the kinds of thoughts that pop in my mind, while I’m laying in bed, trying to sleep. Which I’m off to. Good night, and thanks for any help  

Artie, before you go for it with the stiles, rails and raised panels, I'd recommend that you practice a bit with some scraps of wood. Might save a bit of frustration later.

On 1/5/2019 at 10:46 PM, Stick486 said:

miter corners w/ splines ya say...

 

Stick, I believe he will be making the miters on the corners on the flat corners of stiles and rails . Not as pictured here. He plans to cut the corners 45 degrees

19 minutes ago, It Was Al B said:

Artie, before you go for it with the stiles, rails and raised panels, I'd recommend that you practice a bit with some scraps of wood. Might save a bit of frustration later.

Stick, I believe he will be making the miters on the corners on the flat corners of stiles and rails . Not as pictured here. He plans to cut the corners 45 degrees

a duplicate post showing up 3 days after the original..

how confusing is that???

I'm not an expert when it comes to finishing Artie, but I don't think it is necessary to paint the panel first. I've bought unfinished wood raised panel closet doors. After painting them I've never experienced one shrinking enough to show any unpainted area. All the raised panel doors I've built were either varnish or urethane finished. I have never seen any evidence of areas with no finish. You will be building the doors at room temp and they will be installed in a home that won't vary much from the temp when they were built. If exposed to extreme temp changes and/or extreme moisture variations,you may see some unfinished areas. By not gluing the panel in place, it allows for expansion and contraction in all directions. If the panel were glued in place, it could cause stresses that may cause cracking in the wood. 

Must have been something I did stick. 

15 minutes ago, It Was Al B said:

Must have been something I did stick. 

some times the resident editor saves what you didn't post and needs to be cleared before you carry on...

the ''editor'' shows up as a notice at the bottom of your post..

click the ''X'' to clear it...

 

On 1/5/2019 at 6:17 PM, Artie said:

I didn’t use any glue on the locations of the three clamps, with them being wood, figgered that could have a bad ending. 

about that squeeze out...

Bob Van Dyke Shop Tip: Glue Squeeze Out...

 

On 1/5/2019 at 6:17 PM, Artie said:

I can see why some people prefer a stand alone jointer. Getting that beast off the holder, getting it on and off the Shopsmith, and back on the stand was a real workout.

Plan ''B''...

JOINER SUBSTITUTE.pdf

Here's some help for ya...

I thought I posted these last night, musta forgot to hit submit button. This was the way I came up with to glue-up, any suggestions/advice/opinions/comments welcome and sought after. I used Mr Sticks advice and put wax paper underneath so no glue sticking to anything I didn’t want it to.

Looking good Artie !

Great job Artie. I think you got this woodworking thing down. Having fun too aren't you?