August 31, 20178 yr 41 minutes ago, Dadio said: With the new improved glues, I have just held two pieces of wood tight for a couple of minutes and let set for an hour and when I broke them apart the wood gave loose and the glue held tight. Herb Good to know, Herb. Rubber bands are cheaper than clamps! John
August 31, 20178 yr 3 hours ago, HARO50 said: Spread the glue to 3 molecules, then go over it with the shopvac. It will take off the top 2 molecules, leaving the exact amount needed! John I just KNOW someone is going to try this! It'd be easier to send the spreader back for re calibration.
August 31, 20178 yr 39 minutes ago, HARO50 said: Good to know, Herb. Rubber bands are cheaper than clamps! John This pertains to small irregular shaped parts that are hard to clamp. Rubber bands work fine on small boxes with mitered corners. By using blue tape to align the miters, just fold together in a square or other closed polygon and tape the corners ,then put the rubber bands on to apply a little pressure. When I install small wooden handles on jewelry boxes, I find the center of the box ends and drill a small hole ,not all the way thru, Insert a round toothpick cut to length. drill a hole the same in the handle , put some glue on and insert the handle onto the toothpick and hold for a couple of minutes then let set for an hour. the toothpick aligns the handle and keeps it from slipping when pressed into place. Herb
September 15, 20178 yr After many years of woodshop experience I have come to be an avid champion of Bessy style clamps------yes very expensive but if interested in easy and satisfying clamping experience, these clamps are it. It all depends on what is important to one---I found that holding back on some recreational experiences quickly frees up the extra cash required.----- also after many glueup problems that most applications require only modest pressure
September 19, 20178 yr Author On 9/15/2017 at 11:32 AM, Marv Rall said: After many years of woodshop experience I have come to be an avid champion of Bessy style clamps------yes very expensive but if interested in easy and satisfying clamping experience, these clamps are it. It all depends on what is important to one---I found that holding back on some recreational experiences quickly frees up the extra cash required.----- also after many glueup problems that most applications require only modest pressure Recreational experiences?! For me, that would mean no internet or Xbox 360! I wouldn't be able to talk to you guys or save the world when you guys are safely sleeping!!!
September 19, 20178 yr 1 hour ago, DerBengel said: I wouldn't be able to talk to you guys or save the world when you guys are safely sleeping!!! ah-ha!!! you talk to us in our sleep... that explains a lot... can't wait till my psycho babble expert hears that I really am hearing voices...
September 21, 20178 yr Author That was supposed to be 2 different thoughts but that reply sure cracked me up!!!
September 21, 20178 yr Don't know if anyone mentioned this but M & T are long grain to long grain joints that are structurally sound when glued together. If you force fit the tenon into the mortise you force most of the glue out and create a very weak M & T joint. As others said a light mallet tap should get them to slide apart with that in mind the glue will not be forced out but will properly set up on both surfaces and make the strongest joint (with some argument) that is known to man.
September 22, 20178 yr A little saying I read by I do not remember who " fit so that your hat will force it together" , that is a tap from your hat.
September 23, 20178 yr Author Your hat? That is a very light tap...can't think of much of anything that would go together with such a light tap. WOW.
September 23, 20178 yr The idea of the M&T joint is that it is rigid and the glue then holds it in place . Driving it together could well lead t early failure by crushing the wood or splitting the mortise.
September 23, 20178 yr 18 hours ago, DerBengel said: Your hat? That is a very light tap...can't think of much of anything that would go together with such a light tap. WOW. If you wear a hard hat in the shop, you can give it quite a substantial whack! John
September 24, 20178 yr Beam clamps work when pipe clamps just aren't enough... In this case pipes were used and most destroyed because the threads aren't strong enough...
October 15, 20178 yr We ordered 12 -36" and 12 -48" just for parallam tops. Because Jorgensen beams are no longer anyone compared to Bessey I-beam clamps to Jorgensen?
October 16, 20178 yr Wow, Billy. That's a thick slab. Are those 1/2" pipes? Out of curiosity, what's the application for that glued up glue lam?
October 16, 20178 yr That's a chunk of money lying there! I'm curious, too! What is the final application?
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