August 15, 20178 yr On 8/10/2017 at 8:35 AM, kmealy said: Read yesterday that the new owner got physical assets as well as intellectual property (i.e., patents). Also on today's news: http://www.npr.org/2017/08/10/542474093/despite-proven-technology-attempts-to-make-table-saws-safer-drag-on If Mr Greed "GASS" wins, we all lose. Only big business will be able to afford a TS.
August 15, 20178 yr I have a feeling that the statistics on loosing fingers is somewhat exaggerated. He makes it sound like the people are just standing there running their hands through the saw to see their finger fly. Herb
August 15, 20178 yr 10 hours ago, Dadio said: I have a feeling that the statistics on loosing fingers is somewhat exaggerated. He makes it sound like the people are just standing there running their hands through the saw to see their finger fly. Herb Stumpy Nubs, sponsored by SawStop. Imagine that, just plain coincidence ? I highly doubt it. Stumpy even shows a bloody bandage on one of his thumbs. http://www.stumpynubs.com/homemade-tools.html
August 15, 20178 yr Take a good look at that photo. It's obviously a manipulated photo. The pinky isn't shown and if you look near the alleged bandaged thumb,.you can see the actual thumb itself.
August 15, 20178 yr Author On 8/11/2017 at 10:22 AM, schnewj said: I would consider a Saw Stop cabinet saw (since it doesn't line Bass's pockets) .... You're assuming Gass does not get a royalty on every unit sold and shares in parent company in addition to lump sum for intellectual property and physical assets. Edited August 15, 20178 yr by kmealy
August 15, 20178 yr Didn't he sue Bosh for their newly developed technology that wasn't anything like the SAW Stop flesh sensing technology? Edited August 15, 20178 yr by MT Stringer
August 15, 20178 yr Author 1 hour ago, MT Stringer said: Didn't he sue Bosh for their newly developed technology that wasn't anything like the SAW Stop flesh sensing technology? Yes, and won.
August 15, 20178 yr 1 hour ago, MT Stringer said: Didn't he sue Bosh for their newly developed technology that wasn't anything like the SAW Stop flesh sensing technology? 11 minutes ago, kmealy said: Yes, and won. Only because some of the Bosch system components were "possible" infringements on ones that Bass holds/held(?). Last I knew Bosch was considering an appeal to the ruling(s). However, I haven't seen anything in the news. 1 hour ago, kmealy said: You're assuming Gass does not get a royalty on every unit sold and shares in parent company in addition to lump sum for intellectual property and physical assets. I'm not well versed in patent law, so I would have to ask my brother, but if he sold the "intellectual" property (i.e. patents) then he may not be entitled to any future royalties. If this is the case, then instead of going to court on an appeal Bosch could lease the rights to the "infringed patents" and market the Reaxx systems. However, I don't see the new SS owners being stupid enough to give a product rival an opening. We'll have to wait and see how this fleshes out.
August 15, 20178 yr Author I worked many years on a product that was sold to the company I worked for. I believe the developer got money up front, a royalty on purchases, the right to reclaim the product if it didn't meet certain sales volumes (the old buy it and shelve it or not know what to do with it scenario). He also got an executive-level job at the company. At the time I left the company, it was the company's highest annual money maker in terms of sales, and was nearing one billion dollars in sales world-wide. They could have paid me a little more since I was the lead developer for most of those years.
August 15, 20178 yr On 8/11/2017 at 9:22 AM, schnewj said: I would consider a Saw Stop cabinet saw (since it doesn't line Bass's pockets) if it had a less damaging system like the Bosch. The saws ARE well made, and I don't see Bosch marketing a cabinet saw anytime soon in the US. Cabinet saws in my opinion are over blown for a hobby shop. They are industrial grade saws. For bragging rights like owning a Corvette, but certainly are not a must have. In my opinion the Contractor's table saw has gotten an unfair rap by cabinet saw pushers, and people that buy a lesser brand of Contractor's saw, plus don't know what the correct circuit is to plug it into, have a less then great fence, and probably don't read a board before running it through the table saw. I could of bought my fathers Delta cabinet saw when he hung up woodworking not too long ago, but the Delta Contractor's saw with a Unifence, and wired up for 230 V, that I've been using for 25 years fits my needs perfectly. It's been a great saw for me. Infact I like it so much that I also have the Delta 9" version in the basement small shop, that I use in the winter, or for small quick jobs. Edited August 15, 20178 yr by CharlieL
August 15, 20178 yr 1 hour ago, kmealy said: They could have paid me a little more since I was the lead developer for most of those years. Trust me I know, I've been mostly a blue collar worker, with most of the years as a meat cutter ( 20 years until I hung it up ). Blue collar wages and benefits haven't exactly been keeping up with the times for the last 25 years or so in this country. Now I'm getting a frustrating lesson about my dust collection ideas, and perhaps the economy. Edited August 15, 20178 yr by CharlieL
August 15, 20178 yr 9 minutes ago, CharlieL said: Cabinet saws in my opinion are over blown for a hobby shop. They are industrial grade saws. For bragging rights like owning a Corvette, but certainly not a must have. In my opinion the Contractor's table saw has gotten an unfair monad rap by cabinet saw salesmen, and people that buy a lesser brand, don't know what the correct circuit is to plug it into, have a less then great fence, and probably don't read a board before running it through the table saw. I could of bought my fathers Delta cabinet saw when he hung up woodworking not too long ago, but the Delta Contractor's saw with a Unfenced and wired up for 230 V that I've been using for 25 years fits my needs perfectly. It's been a great saw for me. Infact I like it so much that I also have the Delta 9" version in the basement small shop, that I use in the winter, or for small quick jobs. I don't disagree at all. I use a contractor's saw and it does (mostly) what I ask it to do. I don't have much space and it is a great asset. However, that doesn't mean that I wouldn't like to have a good solid cabinet saw. When I finally get back into a reasonable sized shop, then I WILL have one again. The contractors saw has its drawbacks. It is aluminum instead of steel on the table, it can be under powered and and bog down if you don't remember it has a low hp motor. It uses a thing kerf blade, again, you have to be cognizant of the blade deflection. On and on... I have never popped a breaker with this saw, because I know its limitations and I stay aware of what needs to be done and how to go about it. I have been cursed with some pretty awful contractors saws and I have used some really good cabinet saws. I know which one I would prefer. That is my opinion and it belongs to me and nobody else. Now how did we get of the subject of Gass selling off SawStop...?
August 15, 20178 yr Author 7 minutes ago, schnewj said: Now how did we get of the subject of Gass selling off SawStop...? Above average life before topic drift around here.
August 15, 20178 yr 1 minute ago, schnewj said: The contractors saw has its drawbacks. It is aluminum instead of steel on the table, it can be under powered and and bog down if you don't remember it has a low hp motor. It uses a thing kerf blade, again, you have to be cognizant of the blade deflection. I'd like to see a picture and a brand / model number of your saw.
August 15, 20178 yr 4 minutes ago, CharlieL said: I'd like to see a picture and a brand / model number of your saw. https://www.boschtools.com/ca/en/boschtools-ocs/table-saws-4100-30445-p/
August 15, 20178 yr 53 minutes ago, schnewj said: https://www.boschtools.com/ca/en/boschtools-ocs/table-saws-4100-30445-p/ That is not a Contractor's table saw. Edited August 16, 20178 yr by CharlieL
August 16, 20178 yr 5 minutes ago, CharlieL said: That is not a Contractor's table saw. Ah, OK, we're done!
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