23 minutes ago, Gene Howe said:

I'm baffled as to the market for the crappy plywood sold by the big box stores. Who buys the stuff? 

 

My company buys this stuff!

9 hours ago, Chips N Dust said:

Good ply is hard to find. Luckily, the locam lowes sell plywood from Roseburg Forest Products. A Douglas county Oregon company. Fond memories of that company

Our big box stores just don't have it here in So Cal. But our mom and pop outfits have excellent plywood, for my own work I typically go to our local Reel Lumber which carries hardwood and good ol fashioned full 3/4" grade AAA plywood. Just wish I could get our department to open an account there.

9 hours ago, Grandpadave52 said:

Just curious John, overall how did you really feel about this plywood versus the previous stuff?

It's all CRAP Dave!!!!!! If we allowed cursing here in this forum "crap" would be replaced by a major expletive. I am glad I don't make casework anymore like I used to, it would drive me crazy. Not too mention it's just plain messy and makes a mess of my shop. Working on my recent projects the shavings and chips just fall directly below the area I'm working in at the time, this plywood crap gets all over the place, every crevice, everywhere. CRAP!

I am really enjoying the benefits of working in a dust free zone with my chairs. about the only time I am experiencing any dust at all anymore is when I hand sand my chairs, and that is minimal.

All that being said, our local ply in our big box stores is just plain ol crap.

 

Yesterday morning when I went to Home Depot and started to look for an alternative from what I built the first box from, I asked the man employee who was walking nearby, he works the lumber dept, and I told him the horrible time I was having just gettin a screw into the last stuff we bought, and I asked him if there was a better alternative, and he pointed to this stuff, he said, hey, it's 10 bucks more per sheet, so it must be better! I knew the alternative stuff was going to be crap too, but it's all they had, so like a good solider, I improvise and overcome.

13 minutes ago, John Morris said:

My company buys this stuff!

Introduce them to the APA. Appeal to their patriotism. 

25 minutes ago, John Morris said:

It's all CRAP Dave!!!!!! If we allowed cursing here in this forum "crap" would be replaced by a major expletive. I am glad I don't make casework anymore like I used to, it would drive me crazy. Not too mention it's just plain messy and makes a mess of my shop. Working on my recent projects the shavings and chips just fall directly below the area I'm working in at the time, this plywood crap gets all over the place, every crevice, everywhere. CRAP!

I am really enjoying the benefits of working in a dust free zone with my chairs. about the only time I am experiencing any dust at all anymore is when I hand sand my chairs, and that is minimal.

All that being said, our local ply in our big box stores is just plain ol crap.

 

Yesterday morning when I went to Home Depot and started to look for an alternative from what I built the first box from, I asked the man employee who was walking nearby, he works the lumber dept, and I told him the horrible time I was having just gettin a screw into the last stuff we bought, and I asked him if there was a better alternative, and he pointed to this stuff, he said, hey, it's 10 bucks more per sheet, so it must be better! I knew the alternative stuff was going to be crap too, but it's all they had, so like a good solider, I improvise and overcome.

 

So John, if I am hearing your right, they plywood you get at your local HD is no good?

Just now, Chips N Dust said:

 

So John, if I am hearing your right, they plywood you get at your local HD is no good?

CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP!!!!!!!!!

Just now, John Morris said:

CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP!!!!!!!!!

 

I just wanted to make sure I was hearing you right 

1 minute ago, Chips N Dust said:

 

I just wanted to make sure I was hearing you right 

We're moving to Oregon

1 minute ago, John Morris said:

We're moving to Oregon

 

Lots of room, you just do not want to live in the northern I5 corridor.

I'd suggest AZ except no work for surveyors. We're still using metes and bounds. And, good plywood is scarce here, as well.

But, plenty of space.

25 minutes ago, Gene Howe said:

I'd suggest AZ except no work for surveyors. We're still using metes and bounds.

Hey Gene, who do ya think lays out your new homes, new subdivisions, tract homes, the homes themselves, pipelines, roads, road improvements, road widening, do you think they just set an asphalt machine on the road and tell it to go? You need surveyors! Who do ya think lays out bridges, canals, power poles, utilities, drainage, monitoring of state highway overpasses, who do ya think! ME!

Just razin ya Gene, it aint all boundary, most of our work is construction, not boundary. Wherever there is land and man needs to alter it in a profound way, you need a surveyor, that is why our work is always in demand.

29 minutes ago, John Morris said:

Hey Gene, who do ya think lays out your new homes, new subdivisions, tract homes, the homes themselves, pipelines, roads, road improvements, road widening, do you think they just set an asphalt machine on the road and tell it to go? You need surveyors! Who do ya think lays out bridges, canals, power poles, utilities, drainage, monitoring of state highway overpasses, who do ya think! ME!

Just razin ya Gene, it aint all boundary, most of our work is construction, not boundary. Wherever there is land and man needs to alter it in a profound way, you need a surveyor, that is why our work is always in demand.

Now, your talkin' citified stuff.  The metes and bounds comment was to illustrate our unsophisticated approach. 

Pace it off, drive a stake and repeat. If it looks good, nail it.

 

 

24 minutes ago, Gene Howe said:

Pace it off, drive a stake and repeat. If it looks good, nail it.

Thus the reason for the multitude of land disputes in the open west, just like the old days! Ma, get yer gun, we got squatters!

Hey Gene, us Surveyors are like Lawyers, if there aint work in any given area, we'll create it!

58 minutes ago, Gene Howe said:

Pace it off, drive a stake and repeat. If it looks good, nail it.

 

now yur talkin'...

i want a place where i can stand on the high point, do a 360, and proclaim that i own everything i can see.

 

3 minutes ago, DAB said:

i want a place where i can stand on the high point, do a 360, and proclaim that i own everything i can see.

 

Now you're talking!

 

4 hours ago, John Morris said:

Hey Gene, who do ya think lays out your new homes, new subdivisions, tract homes, the homes themselves, pipelines, roads, road improvements, road widening, do you think they just set an asphalt machine on the road and tell it to go? You need surveyors! Who do ya think lays out bridges, canals, power poles, utilities, drainage, monitoring of state highway overpasses, who do ya think! ME!

Just razin ya Gene, it aint all boundary, most of our work is construction, not boundary. Wherever there is land and man needs to alter it in a profound way, you need a surveyor, that is why our work is always in demand.

 

With some of the paving contractors around here, I think that they do set the paver on the road and go. I told one of the superintendents once, that since I kept hitting my teeth on the steering wheel, I was going to send them my dentist bill for fixing my teeth (thank God that was not my project they were paving)

9 hours ago, John Morris said:

It's all CRAP Dave!!!!!! If we allowed cursing here in this forum "crap" would be replaced by a major expletive.... this plywood crap gets all over the place, every crevice, everywhere. CRAP!...

All that being said, our local ply in our big box stores is just plain ol crap....

 

...I knew the alternative stuff was going to be crap too...

 

9 hours ago, John Morris said:

CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP!!!!!!!!!

So just to be perfectly clear on the quality of this plywood John, you're saying it's really a bunch of cr*p?

 

Hope today was a better day...

4 minutes ago, Grandpadave52 said:

 

So just to be perfectly clear on the quality of this plywood John, you're saying it's really a bunch of cr*p?

 

Hope today was a better day...

Yes sir, that about sums it up. Today got another box done and delivered. Same crappy plywood, started sanding it with my ROS, and if I got near the edge of the ply, the ROS would rip up the veneers and peel it back an inch or two, just plain crap I tell ya.

1 minute ago, John Morris said:

Yes sir, that about sums it up. Today got another box done and delivered. Same crappy plywood, started sanding it with my ROS, and if I got near the edge of the ply, the ROS would rip up the veneers and peel it back an inch or two, just plain crap I tell ya.

Here John try one of these the next time you get some of that cr*@py plywood...you know you're not yourself when you have to work with it...