John Morris Posted May 4, 2017 Author Report Posted May 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Grandpadave52 said: Here John try one of these the next time you get some of that cr*@py plywood...you know you're not yourself when you have to work with it... I love those! Haven't had them in a while, but that there is my favorite candy bar, thanks Dave! Grandpadave52, Cal and HARO50 3 Quote
Gene Howe Posted May 4, 2017 Report Posted May 4, 2017 8 hours ago, John Morris said: Thus the reason for the multitude of land disputes in the open west, just like the old days! Ma, get yer gun, we got squatters! Hey Gene, us Surveyors are like Lawyers, if there aint work in any given area, we'll create it! Most recent big land dispute around here was between the Navajo and Hopi tribes. Settled boundaries were determined by metes and bounds, BTW. Of course, govt. land grabs have always caused disputes. HARO50 1 Quote
John Morris Posted May 4, 2017 Author Report Posted May 4, 2017 AZ is based on the public lands system just like it is here in CA and most of our nation, metes and bounds is just one of the many ways to describe a parcel or lot, not the only way. There are various ways to create a parcel of land by various legal descriptions, see here at https://land.az.gov/mapping-services/sco/about-public-land-survey "That parcel of land which is located in the Northwest 1/4 of the Southwest 1/4 of Section 24, Township 5 South, Range 4 West." The above is a very basic legal description, or otherwise as called "Description by Aliquot". Not trying to get in the weeds here, but Metes and Bounds is one of many ways to lock a parcel down in a legal description. There are so many ways to describe a parcel or strip of land as there are many legal reason to describe a piece of land one way over the other. Metes and Bounds is one of the oldest ways to describe a parcel of land, originating in England I believe. But there is not such thing as one legal description fits all. Get your deed out Gene, or your assessors parcel map, I'd like to see what they are doing out in your neck of the wood for legal descriptions. Scan it and post it here, this will be fun! It's public record as are all land transactions and records. Gene Howe 1 Quote
Gene Howe Posted May 4, 2017 Report Posted May 4, 2017 (edited) I'll do that John. Our piece of heaven was properly surveyed despite my previous attempts at humor. We located the monuments before the purchase. We bought 80 acres and subdivided it into 3 equal parcels. It was again surveyed for that. It was totally devoid of any thing but tumbleweeds, scrub cedar, cow pies and rocks. Had been part of a yuge ranch. Still got the scrub cedars and rocks (lots of petrified wood) but have managed to control the tumble weeds. Mother Nature took care of the cow pies. Hope you didn't think I was denigrating the surveying profession. Not intended. Edited May 4, 2017 by Gene Howe HARO50 and John Morris 2 Quote
John Morris Posted May 4, 2017 Author Report Posted May 4, 2017 8 minutes ago, Gene Howe said: Hope you didn't think I was denigrating the surveying profession. Not intended. Not at all! I love research Gene, when you talked about Metes and Bounds it sent me off on a tangent of exploration. I wanted to see what AZ lands systems were based on, and I got my answer. I tend to think allowed in my writings Gene, you outta know that by now. By any chance are those 3 parcels for the next of kin? Just curious is all, only because it seems a common reason to subdivide like that, beside increasing property value, which you did by sub-dividing, it typically seems to come down to a next of kin thing, or family building on the other parcels. Man 80 acres!!!!! Scrub wood and weeds, I'll take it, 80 acres is 80 acres! How cool Gene, green with envy here. HARO50 1 Quote
John Morris Posted May 4, 2017 Author Report Posted May 4, 2017 By the way, I really would love to see your legal, or your deed, it's an area of interest for me is all, I get a kick from it. Chips N Dust and HARO50 2 Quote
Gene Howe Posted May 4, 2017 Report Posted May 4, 2017 Phyl's sis and bil bought one and we sold the other one to couple we'd met when we ate in their restaurant. May be a bit before I can get the deed and platt scanned. Have to take them in to town to have it done. John Morris 1 Quote
Chips N Dust Posted May 4, 2017 Report Posted May 4, 2017 (edited) 11 hours ago, John Morris said: By the way, I really would love to see your legal, or your deed, it's an area of interest for me is all, I get a kick from it. I remember a story the surveyor for Roseburg Forest Products told me one time. He was researching the survey notes and legal descriptions for some property the company had recently purchased in Northern CA. He found in the fields notes, "Sent 'Joe' back to re-set corner yesterday. He has not come back yet, either Indians or bears got him." This, if I remember correctly, was one of the first surveys in this area setting the section lines. Edited May 4, 2017 by Chips N Dust Cal, Stick486, John Morris and 1 other 4 Quote
Stick486 Posted May 4, 2017 Report Posted May 4, 2017 On 5/3/2017 at 11:22 AM, DAB said: i want a place where i can stand on the high point, do a 360, and proclaim that i own everything i can see. and every citidiot for miles around will show up and use as their personal play ground ad the the go ballistic when you have them arrested for trespassing and poaching... HARO50 and John Morris 2 Quote
John Morris Posted May 4, 2017 Author Report Posted May 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Stick486 said: and every citidiot for miles around will show up and use as their personal play ground ad the the go ballistic when you have them arrested for trespassing and poaching... VOE by Stick. HARO50 1 Quote
Gene Howe Posted May 4, 2017 Report Posted May 4, 2017 5 hours ago, Stick486 said: and every citidiot for miles around will show up and use as their personal play ground ad the the go ballistic when you have them arrested for trespassing and poaching... Exactly. The cidiots and cattle. Same mental capacity.....Take that back. The cattle respect closed gates. HARO50, Grandpadave52 and Chips N Dust 3 Quote
Stick486 Posted May 4, 2017 Report Posted May 4, 2017 the cattle are welcome.... HARO50, Gene Howe and Grandpadave52 3 Quote
Gene Howe Posted May 5, 2017 Report Posted May 5, 2017 Yep....on the other side of the fence. HARO50 and Grandpadave52 2 Quote
Stick486 Posted May 5, 2017 Report Posted May 5, 2017 (edited) this side too... makes it easier to pick out one for lunch.... Edited May 5, 2017 by Stick486 HARO50 1 Quote
Gene Howe Posted May 5, 2017 Report Posted May 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Stick486 said: this side too... makes it easier to pick out one for lunch.... Out here, that would result in one expensive and time consuming hamburger. Most grazing is on BLM land. Don't know if the feds would get involved, but the sheriff would surely come calling. HARO50 1 Quote
Stick486 Posted May 5, 2017 Report Posted May 5, 2017 they are my supply of range beef... selecting is a necessity... HARO50 1 Quote
p_toad Posted May 5, 2017 Report Posted May 5, 2017 4 hours ago, Stick486 said: they are my supply of range beef... selecting is a necessity... It's what's for dinner (™) Mmmmm, and all those fresh pies...oops, wrong kind. Well, they're not too bad when they dry. HARO50 1 Quote
Stick486 Posted May 6, 2017 Report Posted May 6, 2017 1 hour ago, p_toad said: Well, they're not too bad when they dry. good source of heat.. HARO50 1 Quote
John Morris Posted May 6, 2017 Author Report Posted May 6, 2017 I think I found a useful spot for the one left over sheet of crappy plywood, a sacraficial layer for the top of my workbench! I never worked with such crap in my life. HARO50, p_toad, Dadio and 1 other 4 Quote
Grandpadave52 Posted May 6, 2017 Report Posted May 6, 2017 7 minutes ago, John Morris said: I think I found a useful spot for the one left over sheet of crappy plywood, a sacraficial layer for the top of my workbench! I never worked with such crap in my life. SNORK!!! HARO50 1 Quote
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