For a LONG time, there was a farm just west of Quincy, OH that had two old, wood sided Box cars sitting out back of the barn.   I think they were using them just for storage.    Both cars finally just fell apart, after the steel framework  finally rusted away.     Might have been from the C.C.C.&  St L.  RR, or maybe the Detroit, Toledo & Ironton RR?     Not sure HOW that farmer got them back there, either. 

16 hours ago, HARO50 said:

Nope... that's a yard hydrant. Needs an electric pump to work. Trust me... got one in the front yard.

John

yur right...

I posted that and was thing this....

 

The well we had at the farm was a hand dug well 65" deep. Since throse hand pumps would only suck and lift water 8"-9' it had one at the bottom of the pipe at about 50"+ down to keep the water from draining out of the pipe. The pump had long lengths of brass rod going down into the well connected to the piston. When the leather washers wore out on the piston the pump was removed and the rods were pulled up and each section unscrewed and the last one had the piston on it.

Herb

The only thing I knew about our well was that it usually ran dry in late summer. We had a neighbor who had a well, probably 30" deep. I have no idea how that well was dug, but the home was likely built in the late 1600's. It was a large 2 story building that had large upper and lower porches  with a view to the ocean. Developers have since demolished the building. The well had a spindle and crank handle with a long rope attached to a wooden bucket. We would crank bucket full after bucket full of water and pour them into our containers to carry home.

We did that when the power went off,and the water tower went dry.

Herb

This morning I was in Menards and saw something that made me remember this thread. While walking through their 1X lumber section, I noticed they actually label their carsiding as "carsiding", at least when it was white pine. In the cedar section they label it "tongue and groove".

47 minutes ago, Fred W. Hargis, Jr said:

This morning I was in Menards and saw something that made me remember this thread. While walking through their 1X lumber section, I noticed they actually label their carsiding as "carsiding", at least when it was white pine. In the cedar section they label it "tongue and groove".

Sounds like a good comprise to me.

Herb

On 1/15/2017 at 8:03 AM, Grandpadave52 said:

I wouldn't count on it...maybe car-siding is a generational thing? I'm 64 y/o and like Larry that's all I've ever heard it called (aside from secondary barn siding then tongue & groove siding).

Before the Big Box invasion, all of the little mom & pop hardware/lumber yards in our area advertised it as car siding or barn siding...some of the independent, specialty lumber yards still do.

 

Well I'm not sure about generational, I'm 62 and this was the first I've heard of carsiding. But I love to learn new stuff so I can't wait to go out to our Lowes are see if they know what it is even if I don't buy any!

 

 

On 1/15/2017 at 3:33 PM, Gene Howe said:

Hey Mike. Good to see ya. Where ya been hiding?

been here and there trying to get my life back together after an empty summer. I still drop in to look around, lol.

 

Well after reading this I was watching Tree House Masters today and they were covering a roof of a tree house with "Car Decking". I was impressed I knew what they were now talking about! 

 

You just never know what you will learn on this forum!

5 hours ago, John Moody said:

You just never know what you will learn on this forum!

and some of it is actually useful stuff too...

6 hours ago, John Moody said:

Well after reading this I was watching Tree House Masters today and they were covering a roof of a tree house with "Car Decking". I was impressed I knew what they were now talking about! 

 

You just never know what you will learn on this forum!

We always called the 1 1/2" thick or thicker 2X6,2X8" T&G decking ,Car Decking. The stuff they used on truck beds and RR cars beds, later in the 60's for subfloors in houses, or exposed beam and decking roofs. It was flat one side and "V" grooved the other.

Herb

3rd one down... carsiding/decking joint...

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25 minutes ago, Dadio said:

or exposed beam and decking roofs. It was flat one side and "V" grooved the other.

 

that's done here often but w/ a difference for 4'OC timber class exposed joists/rafters... this decking is laid on top of the ceiling joists and/or rafters for ''The Look''....

in the cases where the ''show'' ceiling is also the flooring for the 2nd floor it is done for show facing or treated as subflooring..

 

start w/ a 2x6 WW core...

an offset #2 or better WW 1x6 is cemented (Plastic Resin, urea-formaldehyde or polyurethane based w/ mechanical if you can)  onto one face of the 2x6 ...

another matching offset 1x6 for show is cemented onto the opposite face...

average offset is usually 1¼''...

the offset 1x6's make for the groove and the exposed edge of the core lumber forms the tongue..

material sizes are increased to comp for longer OC spans...

this is done w/ in 8'' also... way cheaper than using 3x6 double T&G for show grade material....

 

plan ''B''...

exposed timber framing...

4/4 or 5/4 decking for show/finish edge splined on top of the timbers... BB splines w/o cement because of wood movement...

VLD-TGI's on top of the X/4 to support the long (clear)spans of decking (up to 24')... the decking is installed the same way T&G flooring is...

 

splining and offsets are done to conserve material and cutters.. if you were to cut T&G's you waste ½-¾'' (maybe even 1'') on every board and the normal radii that they come w/... then there is the machinery (shapers, molders and cutter heads) and having to deal w/ extended length material...  do you have any idea how many cubic yards of saw dust this will produce???... one 4-5,000± house... about 80-100 yards which translates to several bunks of boards...

In this case 3+HP routers on site is just the ticket and 4 wing cutters are cheap.... saves thousands and thousands of dollars in material and labor..

 

consider the molder.... I have a much older version of this one in a 6 head...

https://www.exapro.com/iida-woodsman-mh-221c-used-multihead-moulder-p60208059/#

consider the shapers.......

two passes and lots and lots of in/outfeed tables...

or two machines and even more lots and lots of in/outfeed tables...

not to mention all of the material handling and transport for both machines...

 

Years ago there was a company in town that took railroad cars apart and scrapped them out.  A friend worked there and turned me on to some of the tongue and groove flooring/car decking.  They were 2.25"X5.50" in various lengths.  They were actually glue ups of three one by sixes with the center board offset to form the tongue and the groove.  I used some to make a work bench for the garage.  Very heavy duty.  He brought them home and used them as firewood.  Didn't consider it was called car decking until now. 

2 hours ago, HandyDan said:

Years ago there was a company in town that took railroad cars apart and scrapped them out.  A friend worked there and turned me on to some of the tongue and groove flooring/car decking.  They were 2.25"X5.50" in various lengths.  They were actually glue ups of three one by sixes with the center board offset to form the tongue and the groove.  I used some to make a work bench for the garage.  Very heavy duty.  He brought them home and used them as firewood.  Didn't consider it was called car decking until now. 

What kind of wood did they use, Dan . All the ones I have seen have been oak top surface..

Herb

2 minutes ago, Dadio said:

What kind of wood did they use, Dan . All the ones I have seen have been oak top surface..

Herb

 

I know it was not oak.  I am pretty sure it is Fir or Poplar. 

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carsiding.... ?? whats that... Learned a new word today...

Pump part.... I got that one. I was one of the biggest

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