September 13, 20169 yr I commend what Sawstop has done for safety, but not necessarily their tactics. http://www.woodworkingnetwork.com/news/woodworking-industry-news/initial-ruling-finds-bosch-reaxx-saw-violates-sawstop-patents
September 13, 20169 yr Author 54 minutes ago, lew said: New Woodcraft Magazine has a write-up on the Bosch saw. Saw one last weekend, but could not stick around for the hot dog demo. I'm not really interested in a job-site saw.
September 13, 20169 yr Popular Post This is the reason that I will NEVER buy a Sawstop. This guy is an "A-hole" that lobbied to force other manufacturers to use his system out of greed. He failed at that and he is now trying to claim that the major manufacturers are trying to collude against him. It's not that it isn't a well built tool, I just don't like this guy's bullying tactics. I hope that Bosch appeals the lower court ruling and fights this guy. What is really nice about the Bosch is that they have found a way to NOT destroy an expensive blade and then rape you for a new cartridge to boot. I only wish that they did cabinet type saws for our market. I have a 4100 and love it. I would love a cabinet saw even better. I guess that's not in the stars now, (for awhile at least). The folks that bought the Reaxx already will be screwed if they can't buy replacement cartridges. Edited September 13, 20169 yr by schnewj typos
September 13, 20169 yr I was in the 7th grade in 1953 and took wood shop so I could build things like all the older men. We didn't have all (what they call safety things) then. Our shop teacher told us to put our minds on the chore at hand. If you couldn't stay focused do something else and when you are on track come back. We weren't allowed to horse around or talk or gossip. It was what was at hand and nothing else. When my wife comes out to the shop and hears a tool running she will wait till it shuts off to make her entrance. Always come up to some one from the front, don't come up to someone from behind cutting something on the table saw and tap them on the shoulder! I won't buy anything with the saw stop technology. I try to pay attention and figure out things. I'm always saying something to my self-is this OK or will this work safely. Preston Edited September 13, 20169 yr by steamshovel
September 13, 20169 yr 12 minutes ago, steamshovel said: I was in the 7th grade in 1953 and took wood shop so I could build things like all the older men. We didn't have all (what they call safety things) then. Our shop teacher told us to put our minds on the chore at hand. If you couldn't stay focused do something else and when you are on track come back. We weren't allowed to horse around or talk or gossip. It was what was at hand and nothing else. When my wife comes out to the shop and hears a tool running she will wait till it shuts off to make her entrance. Always come up to some one from the front, don't come up to someone from behind cutting something on the table saw and tap them on the shoulder! I won't buy anything with the saw stop technology. I try to pay attention and figure out things. I'm always saying something to my self-is this OK or will this work safely. Preston Absolutely, Preston, if you can't focus then do something else. Many times I didn't ride my bike on a 40 mile commute in the morning, because I wasn't fully awake, was being rushed for some reason, or I just had that bad JuJu feeling. There are a bazillion hours of work on conventional tablesaws without an accident. I don't know what the statistics really are, but I'm willing to bet it's extremely low, when it comes to cut fingers/hands. I really applaud Sawstop for developing the safety system. I just don't like the bullying tactics that Bass employs. Would I buy a table with this type of system...absolutely, but it would be the Bosch system and not the SS system. Why would I pay for a system that destroys blades and cost so much to reactivate? Conversely, the Bosch system saves your blade and you get two shots for less than the price of one with the SS.
September 15, 20169 yr Author It's not over yet, folks, http://www.protoolreviews.com/news/sawstop-vs-bosch-reaxx-lawsuit-not-yet/26066/
September 16, 20169 yr If Sawstop wins this, WE are the losers. Yes, Sawstop did try to make their technology available to other manufacturers, BUT, at a price that would have priced their saws out of the market. When manufacturers said no, Sawstop claimed they conspired to stop manufacturers from purchasing the Sawstop technology. Mr Gass lost that battle, but has never stopped in his battle against other manufacturers who joined together with Bosch to develop their own technology. A technology that is far superior to Sawstop. Many woodworkers including myself, never purchased the Sawstop primarily because of Mr Gass and his greedy tactics.
September 16, 20169 yr Author 1 hour ago, It Was Al B said: If Sawstop wins this, WE are the losers. Yes, Sawstop did try to make their technology available to other manufacturers, BUT, at a price that would have priced their saws out of the market. When manufacturers said no, Sawstop claimed they conspired to stop manufacturers from purchasing the Sawstop technology. Mr Gass lost that battle, but has never stopped in his battle against other manufacturers who joined together with Bosch to develop their own technology. A technology that is far superior to Sawstop. Many woodworkers including myself, never purchased the Sawstop primarily because of Mr Gass and his greedy tactics. Don't forget Steve Gass also tried to get a federal mandate for flesh-sensing techology, which, of course, he held dozens of patents on.
September 16, 20169 yr as a patent attorney.. I wonder how infringements and borrows or use of expired patents he pulled off...
September 16, 20169 yr 20 hours ago, Stick486 said: as a patent attorney.. I wonder how infringements and borrows or use of expired patents he pulled off... Many I'm sure. That is why he is so good protecting his.
September 16, 20169 yr 4 minutes ago, HandyDan said: Many I'm sure. That is why he is so good protecting his. or knew which ones to use for blanket coverage...
September 16, 20169 yr 2 minutes ago, Stick486 said: or knew which ones to use for blanket coverage... Experienced at it!
September 17, 20169 yr You notice they always demo it with a hotdog. It senses moisture. Heaven forbid you have dry hands when it hits, you might get more than just a nick. The only demo I saw him do using his finger, they put it in ice first and got it cold and wet. I don't usually do that before I cut a piece of wood.
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