A Simple Saw Horse Design.

[Grandpadave52]

My original WM my wife gave me as a Christmas gift a looong time ago. I have a couple newer "knock-off versions" which are so-so. Purchased one of the original WM, Type 1 at a yard sale a few years back for $20????. It is HEAVY, but much larger work table. Have a weakness for them. I've since bought a couple more at auction for less than $20 each, plus one of the "bench top" models. Have to keep them folded up or they become catch-alls.

[frenchwwr]

I totally forgot about the two table tops and two other full sized ones I found in the dump that I repaired and gave to my sons.

[kmealy]

Kreg, and others, now have similar versions.  Varying cost and qualities.  Patents must have run out.

 

https://www.kregtool.com/shop/workspace/work-supports/mobile-project-center/KWS1000.html

 

https://www.walmart.com/ip/WEN-24-Inch-Height-Adjustable-Tilting-Steel-Portable-Work-Bench-and-Vise-with-8-Sliding-Clamps/631687609?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&&adid=22222222227519813849&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=563177915402&wl4=pla-1465664525476&wl5=9015640&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=online&wl12=631687609&veh=sem&gclid=Cj0KCQjw4PKTBhD8ARIsAHChzRLQFYnrm-leF4xAya--TkfMZ6JfVW1IRjTmy8XM6bZ0r8_C1OL4rSUaAjcPEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

 

https://www.amazon.com/Performance-Tool-W54025-Multipurpose-Workbench/dp/B002UBPZIE/ref=asc_df_B002UBPZIE/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312115148598&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=14985987546750430289&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9015640&hvtargid=pla-382555093439&th=1

 

https://www.worx.com/pegasus-work-table-sawhorse-wx051.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&gclid=Cj0KCQjw4PKTBhD8ARIsAHChzRJncwVMms9eL5sqACpar7CG5UOsWS2-gFf5yMOaCuAk95kkIDuJBAgaAnhGEALw_wcB

 

https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200700133_200700133?cm_mmc=Google-pla&utm_source=Google_PLA&utm_medium=Storage %2B Organizers > Workbenches %2B Work Tables&utm_campaign=Keter&utm_content=60388&gclid=Cj0KCQjw4PKTBhD8ARIsAHChzRLodZdlnG79VQCh-H5dZiEmynOR6HMUgY4zkyaxIiw-hOBGAMpP57waAotZEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

 

https://www.amazon.com/Bosch-Home-Garden-cardboard-capacity/dp/B007R9WICU/ref=asc_df_B007R9WICU/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=416747218208&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=14985987546750430289&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9015640&hvtargid=pla-423249424257&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=97957278630&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=416747218208&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=14985987546750430289&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9015640&hvtargid=pla-423249424257

 

https://www.homedepot.com/p/DEWALT-33-in-Folding-Portable-Workbench-DWST11556/301867227?source=shoppingads&locale=en-US&pla&mtc=Shopping-BF-F_Brand-G-Multi-NA-Multi-NA-Feed-PLA_LIA-NA-NA-Catchall_PLA&cm_mmc=Shopping-BF-F_Brand-G-Multi-NA-Multi-NA-Feed-PLA_LIA-NA-NA-Catchall_PLA-71700000014585962-58700001236285396-92700067144412338&gclid=Cj0KCQjw4PKTBhD8ARIsAHChzRL90uZ39xWLE7qtcd2M4Zvl131HYgC3Dk99MRK6YdvdYP7bf-rJuzkaAt5vEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

 

https://www.woodworkerexpress.com/festool-495315-festool-and-reg-multifunction-tables-mft-3-0-product-type-multifunction-tables-mft-3.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=product_search&utm_campaign=google_product_ads&source=googlebase&country=US&gclid=Cj0KCQjw4PKTBhD8ARIsAHChzRJTVQQTbq6msE1jRpGYKL1XI1zB0UlNee7BMNN03S1JQnhyUeW2MsEaAlflEALw_wcB

 

and of course, HF
https://www.harborfreight.com/folding-clamping-workbench-with-movable-pegs-47844.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=12145234740&campaignid=12145234740&utm_content=117048358316&adsetid=117048358316&product=47844&store=737&gclid=Cj0KCQjw4PKTBhD8ARIsAHChzRIyYI9TEiabJBkbNi_uFhaSS7nT9KrjDWuioe6fzJFYaU3kiUbufoUaAjrQEALw_wcB

 

 

[4DThinker]

I'll guess the workmate clamp top was an older patent that B&D either licensed or was a public domain design.  As you can still buy the original B&D workmate with it's dual height and easy fold up base design I'll bet they have either renewed their original patent or it hasn't run out.  

Thanks for all the link though kmealy.

 

4D

[frenchwwr]

This is the new one I bought, "Over engineered and flimsy"

 

It's been relegated to holding my 8" Metal Shears and 90˚ Miter Saw 

 

https://www.homedepot.com/p/BLACK-DECKER-Workmate-425-30-in-Folding-Portable-Workbench-and-Vise-WM425/202516382

 

[Grandpadave52]

20 minutes ago, frenchwwr said:

This is the new one I bought, "Over engineered and flimsy"

I've got one like it. Bought it at a Garage Sale for $20. It's OK. I like the large work surface but agreed, not for heavy-duty work.

 

The "original" WM similar in design to the 425 is this model. I bought it at a Garage Sale also a few years back for $20. It's a tank. Makes a great work bench to pile stuff on which I've done for far too long.

 

[Woodman]

25 minutes ago, Grandpadave52 said:

The "original" WM similar in design to the 425 is this model.

I remember when they came out. TV commercials.

[kmealy]

Forgot all about it  -- I have a benchtop WorkMate that I use occasionally.  It has a tilting top table.  But the metal clamping surfaces are not my favorite. And the surface is plastic.  Maybe some day, I'll make some wood replacements.   It sits down next to the floor-model workbench that I built when I was doing on site work.  It holds stuff for sawing and drilling.   Basically a small box with platform in the middle.   My main tool these days, since I built the new work surface is my beloved Emmert vise.

 

[frenchwwr]

I bought a pair of these hold downs for my WM. I have tried them and like them but no real torture test of them.

 

https://usa.banggood.com/Aluminum-Alloy-Woodworking-MFT-Table-Hold-Down-Clamp-Woodworking-Desktop-Presser-Dare-for-Quick-Manual-Pressing-Plate-Woodworking-Machinery-Accessories-DIY-Clamps-p-1880707.html?utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=cpc_organic&gmcCountry=US&utm_content=minha&utm_campaign=minha-usg-pc&currency=USD&cur_warehouse=USA&createTmp=1&ID=6293061&utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=cpc_us&utm_content=nolan&utm_campaign=aceng-pla-usa-all3-20220402-nolan&ad_id=513001116163&gclid=Cj0KCQjw4PKTBhD8ARIsAHChzRLs4upN8-nbLe0De0yng75lQXeqZM9wXUf75BsKOfebNx-BlbSqp5oaAi5cEALw_wcB

[Woodman]

10 minutes ago, frenchwwr said:

I bought a pair of these hold downs for my WM. I have tried them and like them but no real torture test of them.

Nice! It's probably about time I drill a few 3/4" holes in my butcher block kitchen island. And make the commitment to turn it into a real work bench. 

[4DThinker]

13 hours ago, Woodman said:

Nice! It's probably about time I drill a few 3/4" holes in my butcher block kitchen island. 

You brought back a memory of mine about the holes in my workmate for accessories.  I wanted to use a couple of the  clamp downs on a bed I made for my drill press.  The holes looked to be 3/4" and I had a 3/4" spade bit for drilling the holes.  Drilled the holes.  Checked the fit only to find it too tight. Measured the width of the hole and the width of my spade bit and both were spot on .75".  Turns out the holes needed were likely 20mm, and in those days before the internet and metric invasion I couldn't buy metric bits at the local small town hardware stores.  I took a rat tail rasp and crudely enlarged the holes until the clamps fit. 

 

These days I would throw in a 20mm Forstner bit bought online to do the job. Oh for the good ole days.    

[Woodman]

49 minutes ago, 4DThinker said:

Turns out the holes needed were likely 20mm

Wonder of wonders. I removed the base leg stand, one extension table, and the motor from my newly-acquired Taiwan-built Delta ∆ 34-670 10" contractor table saw. ALL of the bolts and bolt/nut pairs were 12mm. This is a 1988 saw.