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Love your patience Steven.  My boss wants me to document the most common CNC job I do for students before I officially retire so student helpers can assume the role I played.   The truth is that box/finger joints are by leaps and bounds the most common joints I cut using a CNC with the boards clamped vertically. I'll throw in a link to this thread just in case they can't figure out the CNC part.  Even before we had CNCs to play with we cut them using a fixture on a router table.  Although I had one student ask to be shown how to layout and cut dovetails by hand tools I never had any interest from a student who wanted to cut box joints by hand.  Nice to know its possible if a dryer is running.    :)

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56 minutes ago, 4DThinker said:

  Nice to know its possible if a dryer is running. 

His secret to zen-like patience and productivity? :cowboy:

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Part of the 3 hour tour in the shop, today....check the depth stop..:OldManSmiley:

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as the saw wasn't cutting deep enough..toe had slipped a bit..:BangingHead:

 

More of the layout, saw, chop...until..:TwoThumbsUp:

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Was doing #4 corner...#3 came next...:OldManSmiley:

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All 4 corners were done...knock this back apart...hammer assist.:DevilLaughing:

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Then clamps, glue and a brush, and....:Cheer:

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Maybe a better view..:ChinScratch:

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Bench vise is lending a hand...even got the panel for the bottom cut to size..:TwoThumbsUp:

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Once the box comes out of the clamps, I can level the bottom edges, and then glue this to the bottom of the box..:ChinScratch:

 

Then, I can start on a lid, of some sort:WonderScratch:

Stay tuned..:cowboy:

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7 hours ago, steven newman said:

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Once the box comes out of the clamps, I can level the bottom edges, and then glue this to the bottom of the box..:ChinScratch:

 

 

A solid wood panel glued to the bottom of a perimeter box will be a good test for expansion/contraction conflict theory.  Dip it into some Elmer's glue to seal it from the weather and you should be fine.    In the college shop we've got a big long ancient cabinet full of wood drawers made the same way and 90% of the bottom panels are split. A few have also pushed the corner finger joints apart.  Those bottoms must have swelled up a bit from something spilled on them. The bottoms that failed completely have been replaced by sheets of metal folded and brad nailed to the box sides. 

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This was a trick I learned from Paul Sellers, while building those Desktop Organizers. 

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5 hours ago, 4DThinker said:

a good test for expansion/contraction conflict theory

Violin tops are always attached with hide glue. The top detaches instead of cracking. That is a sign of a well made instrument.

 

But I guess your box falling apart would not be a sign of a well made box?  :cowboy:

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They haven't yet....this is about the 5th box made with the glued on slab bottom..

 

Board is about a whopping 4" wide....and just over 11" long.  

 

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Per Sellers' Instructions...bottom panel was simply glued to the bottom of this box....

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Ok, Fresh out of the clamps, needed  a bit of work..:BugEyeSmiley:

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A check with a square...:ChinScratch:

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Then worked on the longer sides...:SaluteandRun:

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Gaps needed filled...too...got around to the ends..:ChinScratch:

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Almost done....still had to level the top and bottom edges, luck of the draw which will be which, might as well do both:TwoThumbsUp:

 

Then test the bottom panel for fit..:OldManSmiley:

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A little over size is better than  undersized..we can trim the "overs":MachineGun:

 

Thin bead of glue wiped along the edges...then 8 clamps..:Cheer:

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Let this sit a day, while I figure out how to make this..:ChinScratch:

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Into a lid of some sort....and..where to cut this to size.....:WonderScratch:

 

Stay tuned :cowboy:

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Got bored sitting around,:Tapping: so...lid was found to be thick enough(1/2") that I didn't need to build a collar.  Cut that to size.  :ChinScratch:

 

Box came out of the clamps, needing a little trimming on the bottom panel...Millers Falls No.8 took care of that...:MachineGun:

 

Mated up the lid to the box...and clamped in the bench vise....hinges were install..:SaluteandRun:

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Then turn the box over, and fine tune the fit of the lid to the box..and install a latch..:ChinScratch:

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Block plane is there to add a slight bevel to the corners..:OldManSmiley:

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Plane is a Stanley No. 60-1/2 Low Angle.   The colour is called Cordovan (Maroon):JawDrop:

Letting this box sit overnight...and see about a coat of Amber Shellac, Monday?:WonderScratch:

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Hey, them hinges work!:TwoThumbsUp:

 

Stay tuned..:cowboy:

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Nicely done Bandit.:Praise:

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Another beauty! Do you think you'll be able to find stuff to put in it!  :DevilLaughing:

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Friend of the family calls Hobby Lobby her second home.:rolleyes:..might take both boxes to her, and let her see what she can do...:OldManSmiley:

 

PIP Time...:SaluteandRun:

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Show-off...:DevilLaughing:

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Decided these fit well with the size of this box...:ChinScratch:

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This is smaller than it looks, BTW....this is after 2 coats of Amber Shellac...:TwoThumbsUp:

Going after a stash of Ash lumber this week....looking at ten 1 x 6 x 10' boards....will need to cut those down a bit, to fit inside the Chevy....:WonderScratch:

 

About time to post these two as a Project?    Whether to do them as separate Projects, or a pair as one Project?:WonderScratch:

 

Thanks for looking in....:cowboy:

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That’s really a nice gesture with the gifting. I’m certain she will appreciate having one of those gorgeous boxes 

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6 hours ago, steven newman said:

This is smaller than it looks, BTW....this is after 2 coats of Amber Shellac...:TwoThumbsUp:

You better change finishes if it's shrinking the project. Wouldn't get any on your hands either. Just sayin.:lol:

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That's a great looking little box Steven, I'm sure it will be appreciated :TwoThumbsUp:

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On 3/5/2022 at 8:04 PM, steven newman said:

Top and bottom edges were leveled with a hand plane.

Steve, you you rely only on if it will sit flat, or use tools of some sort? I've actually only got a slab of granite for checking level but will be ordering a squarre shortly. Currently the squarest thing in the 'shop' if the card scraper. :)

1 hour ago, Dovetail said:

Steve, you you rely only on if it will sit flat, or use tools of some sort? I've actually only got a slab of granite for checking level but will be ordering a squarre shortly. Currently the squarest thing in the 'shop' if the card scraper. :)

Here is a set like I use. https://www.amazon.com/Grizzly-H2993-Machinists-Square-4-Piece/dp/B0000DD4EE/ref=asc_df_B0000DD4EE/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=309788281570&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10631900964869467322&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=t&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9030226&hvtargid=pla-569821720469&psc=1

Invaluable and far more accurate than my framing squares. Plus, they ain't got no numbers to cornfuze me.:TwoThumbsUp:

https://www.amazon.com/Grizzly-H2993-Machinists-Square-4-Piece/dp/B0000DD4EE/ref=asc_df_B0000DD4EE

 

Here's the link :cowboy: Everything after the "?" is Big Brother tracking us :ph34r: I've got Grizzley slot files. Wonder if it is the same company? I'd planned on ordering a square the same time I order a dovetail marking jig ... The 'new' lid for my box went on crooked. Something is not straight! :PullingHair:

 

I'll give it to my plumber buddy for his shop :P

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To "level" the top edges...I just use a plane long enough tp register on an end and a side, and work my way around.   Test the panel looking for gaps...then lower the high spots until the panel sit flat...

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And no gaps...

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Thanks Steve. The rock-it method was going in circles. I’ve got a long plane and will try that method next time. 

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