MWTCA November 2018 'What's It' Project (677)

[HandyDan]

On 11/2/2018 at 12:42 PM, Cal said:

I may be mistaken, but the pic makes it appear that the tools design is raised.  Rolling this around a piece of pottery or cornice plaster would sink the design, not raise it.

 

Going off of this observation maybe it was used to roll the design into clay or other medium and then filled with plaster for the design.  I have a couple emails out to plaster restorers but have not received a reply as yet.

[Cal]

I just happened to look over a Tandy Leather flyer I got in the mail.  Black Friday sale, leather embossing tool.

 

 

 

 

I went to You Tube to see how it works.  The first is a machine:

 

 

 

 

The second one demonstrates a hand held model

 

 

 

 

[Grandpadave52]

18 minutes ago, Cal said:

I just happened to look over a Tandy Leather flyer I got in the mail.  Black Friday sale, leather embossing tool.

You may have just hit the home-run with this one Cal...darn close...I could see the lipped edges on our mystery tool as guides for a specific width leather keeping the pattern straight or maybe even to score for cutting. 

[Stick486]

you have it Cal..

[John Morris]

I am skeptical about the purpose of the tool as stated by Cal, but I am on board with how the tool is used.

I am looking at leather embossing tools, and they have sharp ridged edges on the patterns, but this months tool, has very soft edges, all the way around, it would be impossible to emboss leather with such a rounded edged pattern.

Devils advocate!

[Gerald]

Maybe it is worn

[Smallpatch]

Hey guys going back and looking at the design in the first picture I don't think it shows any wear at all..There is lots of age wear everywhere else except the the part that makes the design... I would think it would be made for clay or something soft like cookies but why would anyone want to ruin a cookie with designs like that?

[Stick486]

1 hour ago, John Morris said:

would be impossible to emboss leather with such a rounded edged pattern.

I did see several embossing tools like that in a pottery shop...

perhaps the used it on pottery or they made clay/stone accent borders..

they are also called deco liners...

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ornate+tile+deco+liners&t=ffsb&iax=images&ia=images

https://www.tileshop.com/category/tile/floor+tile+location.do

 

 

 

 

John, the tool you pictured may be worn from years of use...

Edited November 19, 2018 by Stick486

[Cal]

1 hour ago, John Morris said:

I am skeptical about the purpose of the tool as stated by Cal, but I am on board with how the tool is used.

I am looking at leather embossing tools, and they have sharp ridged edges on the patterns, but this months tool, has very soft edges, all the way around, it would be impossible to emboss leather with such a rounded edged pattern.

Devils advocate!

Hey John - I never said that is what it was for!  But it has sparked some renewed interest...

I have to agree with you that it is unlikely to be a leather embossing tool, but for a different reason.  I think it is just too big to use on leather.  All of the ones I have seen pictures of are much smaller and allow for some decent psi to make the design.  The tool on hand being so big would require quite a man to put enough pressure on it.

 

I like Stick's pottery or clay use, except that this tool would indent the design instead of having the design proud of the surface... maybe Jess's cookie dough?

[John Morris]

32 minutes ago, Cal said:

The tool on hand being so big would require quite a man to put enough pressure on it.

Those are the words I was looking for, I couldn't quite get my thoughts out, but you hit the nail on the head.

[Stick486]

1 hour ago, Cal said:

I like Stick's pottery or clay use, except that this tool would indent the design instead of having the design proud of the surface...

mold pattern maker...

pour the slip or whatever into the mold being a dissimilar material...

fire the the two together...

the mold is expendable when they are separated...

Edited November 19, 2018 by Stick486

[John Morris]

Ok folks, we are heading into a new month, no final answers yet with support and reference?

[HandyDan]

Sent out some emails but no responses.

[John Morris]

Closing

I'd like to thank everyone for their efforts on November's What's It, there did not seem to be a consensus on this item, and I did not see any reason to submit it to MWTCA with a defined answer. With that being said, we went to a random draw of all participants in this topic, and we'd like to congratulate @Grandpadave52 for being chosen to receive a calendar year of membership to MWTCA and all it's benefits and materials members are privileged to have.

 

Congrats Gramps! Please PM me with your shipping address and first name of significant other for their membership roles. Out where you live gramps there are typically some wonderful MWTCA meetings showcasing members tools collections and sales and guest speakers.

 

Benefits

See Member Benefits

 

MWTCA Meeting and Luncheon

[Grandpadave52]

1 hour ago, John Morris said:

we'd like to congratulate @Grandpadave52 for being chosen to receive a calendar year of membership to MWTCA and all it's benefits and materials members are privileged to have.

 aw shucks...Thanks John, all who participate regularly and especially MWTCA. Appreciated. Hope I don't have to dress up for the awards ceremony.

I'll send you a PM with the particulars in a bit.

[HandyDan]

Congrats Dave!!!!!

[Stick486]

[Gerald]

Hope Dave's head does not get too large. Congrats

[Grandpadave52]

17 minutes ago, Gerald said:

Hope Dave's head does not get too large.

I'd just settle for some hair on top again.

Gets pretty cold on a day like we had today.

[Stick486]

18 minutes ago, Grandpadave52 said:

I'd just settle for some hair on top again.

shave the dog...

and I'm sure you have glue or adhesive on hand...