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MWTCA November 2018 'What's It' Project (677)

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"What's It" Basic Rules Reminder

 

(For a full run down on this project and rules please go to: "The Patriot Woodworker and MWTCA "What's It" project")

  • Only Patriot Woodworker Members are eligible to participate and receive the award.
  • The MWTCA only accepts a verified source to support your answer, so one should be submitted with your answer, such as a patent, catalog entry, tool book reference, or a respectable website on the subject. Do not let these requirements prevent you from having fun and submitting educated answers on the subject without verification, we can worry about references later. All answers are welcome, as well as healthy debates regarding "What's It".
  • If a verified and referenced answer is not arrived at by the end of each month's "What's It" project, a random draw will be performed for a "One Year MWTCA Club Membership".
  • Only Patriot Woodworker's who participate in this "What's It" topic will be included in the random draw.

 

Ok ladies and gentlemen, we now have our "What's it" live and ready!

The image(s) below is a MWTCA "What's It" image for you to research, and tell us all here in this topic post, just what the heck is it!

 

Project Details

The information provided hereon is all the information that is provided, no further information on this item will be added.

Remember, "What's It" is not always woodworking related!

 

This tool is marked Patent No. 16799, though it is not a U.S. patent number

 

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It is a custom "design" roller

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5 minutes ago, Chips N Dust said:

It is a custom "design" roller

And? :lol:

For?

 

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5 minutes ago, John Morris said:

And? :lol:

For?

 

Clay?

Because someone had a lot of money and needed one? :wacko:

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3 minutes ago, Chips N Dust said:

Clay?

Because someone had a lot of money and needed one? :wacko:

It's the best answer so far!

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pottery embossing tool...

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Looks as if the outer edge embosses deeper than the design. That would seem to augur well for it's use on a malleable product like clay or plaster, as has been suggested. 

Edited by Gene Howe

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ornate cornice tool for plaster...

https://www.decocraftusa.com/products/cornice/

 

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...and during a down-turn of the plaster & pottery business, apply decorative edges to icing on cakes:rolleyes:

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Comparative images of the same tool being used for the stated purposes are a must guys, I think you all are on it, but we need proof!

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Being the host of this wonderful topic series, it's my duty to play devils advocate, and it's fun! :lol:

 

Ok, plaster, pottery, cake, some type of roller.

 

  • Pottery Roller, could not be, as in order to roll out a design on a piece of pottery, you would have to apply significant pressure on the piece, and more than likely collapsing the piece as you roll it.
  • Plaster decorative roller, surely there was an easier way to make decorative plaster pieces such as molds etc? Also, lets say it is for that purpose, how do you keep successive rolling cycles from peeling up the plaster or the plaster sticking to the wheel? I would think an imprinting board with carved designs on it, 4 feet long would be better suited for the imprinting of plaster.
  • Cake, I know gramps, it was a joke. :cowboy:

 

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I may be mistaken, but the pic makes it appear that the tools design is raised.  Rolling this around a piece of pottery or cornice plaster would sink the design, not raise it.

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Possibly used to imprint the mold pattern for trim applications similar to these???

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1 hour ago, Cal said:

I may be mistaken, but the pic makes it appear that the tools design is raised.  Rolling this around a piece of pottery or cornice plaster would sink the design, not raise it.

Great point Cal! I knew something wasnt right in Hollywood!

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FWIW, I've spent about an hour searching World Wide Patent Databases...nothing comes close with the exception of a self inking roller...but this would need additional accessories and that patent was circa 2001.

 

I suppose it could have been used to transfer the pattern as an ink print, but nothing I can provide documentation to support this specific tool.

 

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Edited by Grandpadave52

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1 hour ago, Cal said:

I may be mistaken, but the pic makes it appear that the tools design is raised.  Rolling this around a piece of pottery or cornice plaster would sink the design, not raise it.

Yep, called intaglio. 

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8 hours ago, Stick486 said:

pottery embossing tool...

leather?

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