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MWTCA February 2018 "What's It" Project

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1 hour ago, HARO50 said:

Got one of these in a Craftsman  screwdriver set back in the 70's. They called it a cotter pin tool.  Possibly one of the first "Multi-Purpose" tools? :unsure:

Mine's a Snap-on...looks just like this...Have another similar version I bought from AutoZone they call a radiator hose removal tool

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  • I've been looking at these tools since the pic was posted and I don't have anything to add as far as what they might be used for. I just can't get over the fact that no additional information was give

  • Well I see that everyone seems to agree on one thing, .......They all have similar handles.   Herb

  • I won the pot that month, and renewed in Dec., It is a fun thing ,John, we appreciate all that you do,and I am sure I can speak for everyone. In fact I don't know how you do all the things you do on a

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Those look an awful lot like the things they use on us at work, but i'm pretty sure the working end is a lot sharper and longer.  :(

 

By the way, does the end of this remind you of anything?

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3 minutes ago, p_toad said:

By the way, does the end of this remind you of anything?

Does it have batteries? Sorta' reminds me of a version of one of these; used it when moving cattle

 

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Well I see that everyone seems to agree on one thing, .......They all have similar handles.:huh:

 

Herb

I think further and the more I do it looks like a wax modeling tool or for a matter of fact they could be used on anything that can be sculptured including mixtures.

 

Preston

 

 

On 2/8/2018 at 10:37 AM, John Morris said:

That's pretty compelling Bill, now the next step in verification? Perhaps contact the pros via email with this topic link in it, and ask them for their opinion? We always get a ton of great ideas with these MWTCA projects, but you guys never go the next step, verification! :D

So, at John's urging I reached out to several business that do caning, upholstery, weaving type work. I sent them the photo with a request for their opinion on the tools. Here is what I have, so far. I am still waiting on a couple of more replies and I had one request for better photographs of the tips from one of the professionals. John is attempting to obtain them for me/us.

 

Although not super compelling, I got, what I feel are positive replies as to the tools. Here is what I have gathered so far...

 

Dear Bill, It is possible, I would need to see a picture of each turned 1/4 turn to no more.  The tips of the tools are all I need to see.  All Best, Jeremy

The Caning Shoppe

99 Albion St. Studio 2

Somerville, MA     02144

(617) 776-0100

www.caningshoppe.com

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Hi Bill,

 

I don't recognize them,and can't really imagine how they would be used based on how I work, but it's possible. Seat weaving is something that everyone who does it, does a little differently than the others...so it may be that these tools were hand-made by someone for a specific task, such as seat weaving.

 

Karen

 

Karen Curcio <nh.chaircaner@gmail.com>

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Hi William,

 

               These do look to be canning tools.

 

Thank You,

Adam Thomson

Classic Furniture

508-528-6747

adam@classic-furniture.com

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I the interest of FULL disclosure. This professional doesn't think that they are caning tools, but may have been used for another type of seat weaving operation(s).

 

Bill,

After looking at your attachment photo of tools, I do not know exactly what they are!!?!

I feel certain they are not tools used in hand caning....the only tool besides a small tapered awl; a side cutter; and wooden pegs could be a caning needle.  A caning needle has a long fine shaft (similar to a  "0" knitting needle) but with a slotted flat head so cane can be pulled, after the needle is inserted between other strands, to weave in steps 4, 5, and 6.

 

In weaving a porch rocker, these tools might?? have been used to align the ash splints; flat reeds; or half round reeds instead of using one's fingers...

 

Sorry I was not able to identify your tools....let me know if you find verification of what they are...

 

Dennis

mainecaning.com

 

I have not had any luck on finding out for sure. I have sent out pic and have had 2 replies not helping.

 

Preston 

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similar to caning, they reminded me of basket making tools

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One other thought..

 

When spinning a thin metal plate onto a form on the lathe.....

They look like old bicycle tools for putting on/taking off tires.

 

I have seen the top one, or variants of it.  Just cannot place where I seen it.

These tools may have been cleaned up, but they do not look abused such as would be the case if they were in any type of mechanical environment.  No scratches/dents/dings on the handles.  I think might be something to do with a looming type of use.

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Plastic spudges.   Look like the 2nd tool.    Of course, that 2nd tool could simply be a really nicely made caning chisel.

 

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On ‎2‎/‎13‎/‎2018 at 11:49 AM, steven newman said:

One other thought..

 

When spinning a thin metal plate onto a form on the lathe.....

I don't think it is for metal spinning as those tools arte usually larger and at least one end will have a point. Maybe for copper crafting tho

They were used back in the 1800s to mark and mangle furniture to give it that antique look.

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I've been looking at these tools since the pic was posted and I don't have anything to add as far as what they might be used for. I just can't get over the fact that no additional information was given. I know you've explained that this is all the info they gave you, so maybe you should just reject it outright when they give something like this. Tell them there is not enough to work with. Where's a different angle, especially of the bottom tool? You can't really see what the tip looks like. Where's the most basic info, like dimensions? Are they 6" long or 16" long? Makes a big difference on what they are used for. If they really want to know what something is, they need to give us something to work with. That's my two cents, anyway.

I used tools like this for windows as stated in my earlier thread but if I was to vote for best guess it would be for Mike @DRAGON1 and his bicycle tire tool statement.  I bet we were given these tire tools for our "similar" job.

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second tool looks like the side view of a tack lifter -

 

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and yes, I know it's march

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No sign of any split in the tip. And why the wound-wire "ferrules"? That implies that the tools were subject to some serious sidewards forces.

John

If you want my 2 cents , (cost you a nickel) , I think it was dentist tools the barber used .

 

Herb

2 hours ago, p_toad said:

second tool looks like the side view of a tack lifter -

 

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and yes, I know it's march

 

I like your collection.

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