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Saturday's Woodworking Quiz May 13, 2017

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  • HandyDan
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    All trees reproduce by producing seeds, but the seed structure varies. In general, hardwood comes from a deciduous tree which loses its leaves annually andsoftwood comes from a conifer, which usually

  • Gene Howe
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    Just to be on the safe side Fred, don't chew on the needles.

  • Chips N Dust
    Chips N Dust

    Just now, Gene Howe said: Well, don't leave us...me, anyway, in suspense. Which hardwoods don't lose their leaves?  Pacific Madrone and Myrtlewood   The conifer is Larch

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There weren't any I could see. We were posting at the same time when I mentioned it.

I have reached out to a landscaper that I know who knows trees pretty well. Right now, I am thinking bald cypress is pretty close but I am not 100% on that yet

1 hour ago, Gerald said:

Found this image that looks like the tree. Cypress.

Here is the wiki on Bald Cypress and looks like you may be just north of its range. However I found there are many types of cypress.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxodium_distichum

I am still not 100% - the "needle" on a cypress appear straighter than the ones on Fred's tree. If we just had a picture of the fruit/cone we could nail this one in the head. Granted, Fred is north of the "normal" range, people are always transplanting trees into areas they are not found. For example, I have some aspens from high elevation in eastern Oregon in my back yard. I took shoots from them and gave them to my dad who planted them at his place on the coast (50' elevation). If someone saw them who did not know what they were, they probably  would not think of aspen since they are so far out of range. With that being said though, that could be why the "needles" on Fred's tree look different than the ones on the wiki page

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That article Gerald posted, had a picture of bark that looks like Fred's tree. Plus, there was a mention about Indiana declaring it an endangered tree. So, it must've been growing that far north, at some time anyway.

Maybe the Ohio climate and/or soil conditions account for the curly needles and lack of seed production. The article did say that good seed production occurs at 3-5 year intervals. 

23 hours ago, Fred W. Hargis Jr said:

Here's some more. This is a different one, slightly larger and a better view of the trunk as well as some branches right at the trunk. I cut a piece off and brought it in to photo the leaves since it was so windy out.

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When I look at this picture, and the picture on Wikipedia about bald cypress, the branches do not match up, that is why I am not confident this is a cypress. Actually, I am leaning more towards a willow of some type or a locust. If we only had a picture of the fruit/cone

Fred, when did your Arborist look and id the tree as hemlock?  You might give them another call now that it has leafed out.  Or take a  branch in to your local County Extension Agent.

Cal

It was late last summer, and the tree was in leaf at the time he was here. I put "arborist" in quotes because around here folks call themselves whatever they want, i.e. a person with a paint roller is a painter, or another one with a pick up is a trash collector. This guy had a chain saw and a bucket truck and plays an arborist...but may have 0 (zero) formal training of any kind. I search today and try to fins what the seed pod looks like for a cypress, and I'll know what to watch for.

WOW, those are pretty leaves, almost like a fern. Might not be native but rather an architectural landscape planting. I would guess they are a job to rake,or clean up in the fall?  Anyway you can contact the previous owner, I bet they could shed some light on the dilemma.

Herb

Herb, the husband passed away, and his wife didn't even leave a forwarding address when she moved (really peeved my mail carrier off). Anyway, there's no doubt they were part of their landscape plan. But as for cleaning up the leaves...no problem, I didn't do anything and there's no trace of them out there now. The trees aren't very large, and the leaves aren't all that thick on them...not much to deal with at all. I did look up the seed pods and I can guarantee there was none of them on the trees last year. I'll watch this year and see what forms.

Edited by Fred W. Hargis Jr

@Fred W. Hargis Jr

I contacted a landscape architect I know and this is what he replied:

I'm stumped on this one. It looks like a deciduous conifer but the curly leaves are throwing me. It is either a cultivar with naturally curly foliage or foliage that has been damage earlier this season from weather or sucking insects. Metasequoia or Taxodium are the closest I can come up with but I don't have confidence.

 

The Mestasequoia is a Dawn Redwood which someone suggested and the Taxodium is the cypress family.

 

I am not giving up yet.

That is why he is not confident on it either @Gerald  I am leaning towards the cultivar - a hybrid mix. It could be a Metasequoia mix, hence why it does not have the intermediate needles on the main branch.

 

So I guess the thinking now is landscape plant overgrown and not tree in the truest sense of the word

No, there are several "species" of trees that are hybrids to get certain characteristics that landscape people want. It might be one of them or even an off shore tree of some sort. As I said, I am not giving up yet....

Hybrid? A whole 'nuther bag of worms. 

I put my worms in an old tin can. just saying......

Herb

1 hour ago, Dadio said:

I put my worms in an old tin can. just saying......

Herb

 

and take them fishing...

3 hours ago, Stick486 said:

 

and take them fishing...

 

Sitting under a tree.

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