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TGIF: Finishing Summary Tuesday, August 28, 2018

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Characteristics summary.  Remember, pick the characteristics you want and live with the rest of what you get.


Product   Application     Curing     Odor     Protection    Repairability

Oil               Cloth             Slow       Some         Low 1           Moderate

Oil-varnish   Cloth             Slow        Some       Some 3          Moderate

Varnish       Cloth, brush   Slow        Some        High 9           Low

Wax           Cloth              Fast         Low         Low 0            Moderate

Shellac      Cloth, brush,    Fast         Some       Moderate 6     High

                or Spray

Lacquer       Brush, spray  Fast         High   Moderately high 8  High

Waterborne Brush, spray  Fast         Low    Moderately high 8  Moderate

 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
Stain          Cloth, brush,  Fast to    Moderate*      n/a            n/a
                 or spray*         slow*

Glaze        Cloth, brush     Slow        Low                0              n/a

Toner            Spray          Fast*   Some to
                                                 high*              5-8 *         moderate

* depending upon medium

Great idea . Had never thought of a chart to compare simple characteristics of finish.

I know this is a bad word but Keith what about Poly?

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Poly is just a type of varnish.

 

On another forum last week, someone posted these gems 

 

  • there is no non-poly varnish. varnish is made of poly, mineral spirits and a type of oil, usually linseed
  • I also said she could use a tung or hemp oil. mix it with mineral spirits and poly, and you have your own varnish!
  • as for watching you tube videos, there are plenty of people doing things incorrectly. kind of like on here where people post erroneous comments. (ummm, see above)

When I called her on it...

  • Perhaps my statement was a little generalized. although,At its core, polyurethane is a petrochemical resin that contains isocyanates.so technically i'm not too far off.*
  • Unfortunately, polyurethane is less flexible than varnish, so it may not be the best choice to use on wood pieces that move or flex.

    Which is what I mentioned in my comment. you don't have to worry about the poly cracking so there is no need to spend money on a varnish.  [umm I thought you said there were no non-poly varnishes.]

*not exactly -- Isocyanates are compounds containing the isocyanate group (-NCO). They react with compounds containing alcohol (hydroxyl) groups to produce polyurethane polymers, which are components of polyurethane foams, thermoplastic elastomers, spandex fibers, and polyurethane paints.

 

 

Threads like that a fairly common in the circles I travel, and folks don't like being corrected. Oh well....

Fred, when I see posts like Keith cited, my eyes begin to glaze over and I think "Uh, right...I guess". Esoteric arguments about the chemical make ups of ANYTHING just go right over my head. All I want to know is will it work? If the sausage tastes good, who cares how it's made?:unsure:

Water based poly (today's standard) is much different than the oil based version that he mentions above.

I understand Varnish is more flexible but rarely do I use finish for uncontrolled humidity and temp.

That said which one is more resistant to most household chemicals?

 

 

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