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Box Of Fancy Pine

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Starting a new thread...since the Plough Plane is done, and the Shop is cleaned up....

 

Had started a bit of Pine a while back, before all the clean up started.  Resawed a few fancy Pine boards into ~3/8" thickness.   Even glued up a couple "slabs" into a fancy grained top panel...

 

Today, in-between a pair of long road trips....I manged to square a few ends, and cut a few pieces to length.   Mitresaw?

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I am the motor for this one.   Had to joint a few edges to match each other...couple of boards needed planed to match the thickness of other boards...

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These are a Stanley #7c and a Millers Falls No. 14....also used a Stanley #4.   had four pieces that needed to match for width....and two that needed to match for a glue up.

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Book-matched.   One was almost an 1/8" thicker than the other....WAS.   Once they just about matched, time for some glue and clamps..

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All that for a bottom panel....got out some toys..

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That be an end for the box...things over in the vise are sides.   Can never have enough SHARP pencils ( they seem to run away..) and the chisel was a Lay out tool...

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"X" marks the waste.   I saw either on the line, or just on the waste side of the lines.   Then that chisel is used to chop out the waste. 

End panel is also there to set how deep to saw.   One end is a tad thinner than the other.   I'll do this end, then use the other end panel to layout it's finger joints.

 

Top and bottom panels will get a pine molding to house them.   Bottom unit will get attached to the box.   Top becomes a lift-off lid.   Still debating on the knob/handle thingy

 

That is the "Plan" so far....will see how this goes....stay tuned..

1 hour ago, steven newman said:

stay tuned..

Looks good so far...heading up on the roof to turn the antenna now...

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Stomach flu over the weekend shut things down a bit......Tried a bit this morning, since all I needed to do was sit on this..

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Laid out a few toys..

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Piece of pine to the left?

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Used it to set the marking gauge with.   Had a couple other toys to set out, too.

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Knife line stuff....I needed to set the light for working at the vise..

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nice and bright, for old eyes.   Can't saw both parts at the same time...kind of hard to do the layout lines, anyway..

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One at a time keeps mistake to a minimum anyway.    Waxed the saw plate..

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Made a few cuts.  Tried to stay on the lines, and maybe just a hair to the waste side....set up a "chopping  block"

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Same chisel I used to lay out the spacing, BTW.   had to watch out, as some of those chips would come flying back at me....hate when they bounce off the glasses..

Used this one to lay out the matching half..

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Cleaned up the doodles..

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Knifed the lines, saw was cut on the waste side of the lines, tried to leave as much of the lines as I could..

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And just kept going....first dry fit wasn't all that great..

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But we can tune it up...second dry fit involved both long sides..

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The end on the "top"?

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Is just laying there.   Will work on this end of the box, next time I go to the shop...

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IF I trim the bottom panel for a slip fit....I can get rid of a large knot hole...on the left side.   Panel is sitting ON the bench, that is the reason for that gap.

 

Swept the floor,  keeping a "Clean Shop" after all:rolleyes: and stumbled back upstairs.....Stomach is still feeling.....:unsure: but better than over the weekend.:)

Maybe later, I can work a bit more in the shop?  Stay tuned...:ph34r:

1 hour ago, steven newman said:

Stomach flu over the weekend shut things down a bit

Bummer...hate it when that happens. No fun for anybody:wub:

1 hour ago, steven newman said:

Tried a bit this morning,

Realize you were sick but you do know it's Monday, right?:lol:

1 hour ago, steven newman said:

and stumbled back upstairs.....Stomach is still feeling.....:unsure: but better than over the weekend.

I hate Sprite & Ginger Ale...maybe some 7 UP might help or...have you tried this?

image.png.2109e92c9498b4e09a545798bd0bc7d1.png  Sorta' reminds me of Sierra Mist (which I can't find anywhere local anymore), but a little more kick...good when your stomach 'ain't and even better when it is.

Awesome work on the box. I hope you get feeling better

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Tuesday?  Already?  Might as well try the shop, and see how long I can stay down there...before the Boss needs to go somewhere, again..

Had two more corners to get done..

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Saw a few lines...chop a few spots ( duck as the chips come flying back at me..) dry fit..

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This was the last corner....Put all four sides together, for a full fitting..

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So I could mark the bottom panel for size.   Trimmed the panel, plane to smooth the saw marks...one end wasn't quite square.  Langdon 75 fixed that, along with a couple sides that needed squared up.  With the bottom fitted, I added a couple clamps, to keep it that way..

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Hand plane to clean things up.  I also sized a divider, that will sit in the middle of the box....needed ripped for width.   Used the cut off to save a place for the real one, will  I planed the edges smooth..

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Then set this mess aside....needed to make some molding out of this board..

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But, rather than screw this up I went with a scrap of Pine, to test how to make a molding....like this..

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Never said I knew how to draw, right?   Needed to lay out a few cutters and planes..

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Custom ground the one cutter for an earlier project.   Wound up not needing the straight cutter.   So, jig the blank to the bench, set up step one

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Was the Stanley #45, and a bead cutter....reset the 45 for step two..

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Cutter is a lot shorter than the bead cutter, also had to reset the fence...One skate rides right beside the bead..

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Had to start at the far end, and work my way back here.   Time to flip the board over for Step 3..

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Was going to use the Stanley 45 for this...but...the Wards/Stanley 78 is made for this sort of job..

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Ran this until I liked the depth of the cut, then set the depth stop for that depth.   Marked a line 3/4" in from the shoulder of the rebate..

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So I can rip this molding free of the board.   Bandsaw does that, then a plane to smooth things out...

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Pattern is done, planes are set up.   Got the "good" board set up, and one molding made..

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These will wrap around the bottom of the box....may cut a foot profile on the ends, AFTER the Langdon 75 cuts a mitre on the ends. 

Yep, made a big mess of my nice, clean floor..

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Which I barely managed to sweep up into a pile, before the Boss said it was time to go....about 2 hours worth IN the shop...maybe after Supper settles out, I can try some more?

 

Stay tuned...the cussing hasn't even started ...yet:rolleyes:

Excellent job on the molding profile...I'm not sure I could have done it that nice on a router table.

BTW you profile sketch wasn't half shabby either...

I'm tuned...anxious to see how this going to going to go.

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That is also quite a Cardio Workout....Whew.

 

Swept up Pile #1....and promptly started on pile #2....

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After jointing the edge, again,   Cove cutter was having "issues" with the fancy grain....

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Rebates weren't too bad.   I even sharpened the cove cutter, again.  Have a sore left thumb, which means I was using this plane just about right..

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Lots of full length curlies....Finally got all the sticks of molding done..

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Which left another pile to clean up...

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Got this cleaned up..decided to call it a night...stay tuned

 

5 minutes ago, steven newman said:

Have a sore left thumb, which means I was using this plane just about right..

I often wondered about that with an all steel handle and where exactly do you place your left hand anyways?

Likely I would never be good with one of those being a lefty...don't think it mattered much to Stanley back then when they made those if you were left handed.

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Left hand fingers go under the plane, and press against the fence,  thumb goes into the spot where the "Bullnose" cutter would got....hate to take that little bolt out...hard to fix new ones.

The plane CAN be used left-handed, but you lose the use of the depth stop.   Fence can be installed on either side.

10 hours ago, steven newman said:

thumb goes into the spot where the "Bullnose" cutter would got.

That's what I assumed; no wonder those old guys had calluses like leather...would not to have thumb wrestled them even if I was using my entire arm.:P

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Well, the project is now "Officially" begun.....cussing has begun,  enough to make a "Squid" blush..:blush:...but did spread so glue around....it was fighting the clamps that was the problem...F style clamp and two cauls..vs..two hands...anyway..:angry::unsure:

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I did manage to plane the divider flat, with a Millers Falls No. 8 (Stanley #3 size) plane, took awhile..

Laid out where the divider was going to reside...and marked a few lines..

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Knifed the lines for the next step..

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Backsaw cut until the teeth were below the surface of the board,  next..

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Made a mess, but a chisel removed the waste.....later was cleaned up...didn't want to get too deep.:ph34r:

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After screwing around trying to get things lined up, gave up, and started spreading the glue. :angry:   Clamps needed a caul on both ends....that was....fun:angry:

Before I clamped the divider,  I nailed it into place with glue, along with a few nails ( only) to hold the bottom panel in place....

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Kept checking for square...and checking....Far end had bowed a bit, had to add a caul and a c clamp to pull the bow out..:angry:..Laid in a couple blanks for the tray..:rolleyes:

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A couple plywood runners, for the tray to sit on, a couple ends, and three for the sides, and center "handle".....It will get a thin, plywood bottom, nailed and glued.   Same with the corners...

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Depending on how much a PITA this tray is, will determine  IF there is a second tray..:unsure:..about this point, decided to call it a day....

Maybe I can get back to the  Project this Friday?   Tomorrow is all "booked up".   Stay tuned...

 

Steve, at 86, it's too late for me to learn how to do all of this. If there is a hereafter, I'd be glad to have you teach me all that you know. What you accomplish by hand is accomplished faster than I can do it with my power tools. Simply amazing.:)

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I am still learning how to install applied molding....don't do it enough to get good at it...

While waiting on my ride to show up this morning, and before I got into the non-shop clothes...puttered around in the shop...

Sized the parts for the tray, and even  cut the bottom panel for it...:ph34r:

Box came out of the clamps.....and all four corners were cleaned up....then the fun with molding began.....mitre cuts were not working out....

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nails and glue...and a few gaps....some corners were better than others..

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"Work in Progress"  

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I plan to add "Bun Feet" to the corners,,,,good thing, right?

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This didn't turn out too bad, though....Now, about the lid..

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May trim this down to fit inside, then add a molding around the edges.   Maybe a rouded edge on the strip of molding, and add a handle in the middle of the lid?

I also glued in two rails..

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To give the tray something to sit on....still need to BUILD the tray....maybe tomorrow....kind of worn out from all the trip today.  

Stay tuned....may be more tomorrow....

Looking Good!

 

So what's gonna' go in this fancy,smancy box or do we have to wait and be surprised at the end?:P

Looking forward to the next episode.

 

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Lid:    May try to find some thin, "strappy" style hinges....not  too keen on molding going across the grain. :unsure: 

 

Maybe Sunday before I get so much shop time.    May have to work on a Monday, again:o

Won't that PO your tools? (the Monday thing)

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I think I may have avoided any Monday woodworking....spent 3 hours IN the shop, today...Tried to rehab one more saw....meh, a bit too pitted to do much more than just the bolts, and hang it up

 

Made a mess of the bench's top, though..

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"We have ways.."

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Jack plane to clean things up.  Toys to build a tray, and a new bottle of glue!

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Plane stop got a notch?   Needed to plane all the sides to the same height..

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heavy work by the #4, finish up with the 118.   Nails and glue to assemble the four sides.   Then something about a handle to lift the tray out with..:rolleyes:

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Gouge to rough out a finger groove, sander to smooth it out..

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Then glue and nails to install this..

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Those c clamps?  Well, it seems that Paddy Murphy was in the shop....rails needed a second layer...Planes and sander to finish the tray...had a use for it, already..

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First, the "show side" of the lid was planed flat...once that was out of the way..

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I also had jointed the edge of the lid...made sure the top was facing me.  Dumped the hinges into the tray,  laid out for three hinges.  Needed a screwdriver that FIT those screws..

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Apparently, there IS a size smaller than#1 Phillips.   Stanley/Yankee #41 made the pilot holes.  Got all three hinges on the lid (somehow:rolleyes:) then repeat for the case..

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Made one mistake..in the course of sitting the lid onto the case..I had placed the tray INSIDE the box...Yep, Murphy is still hanging around.

Flipped this mess over...had a latch to try out..

first I flushed the lid to match the case..

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There is a nail in the way...until a nail set drove it down...latch?

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Will do for now.  Will go to Menard's and get a brand new one, in shiny brass, no less.    Got this attached to the case..

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Hmm..where did the tray go?  Again?

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Yep..again.    While this was sitting opened up...scrounged up a foam brush, and the can of Golden Oak stain..

(ready for the PIP?)

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Rather showy grain?    Even the plywood was "fancy"..

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Just plywood for the bottom..close the lid..

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latch was having "issues" and will get replaced with a new one...finger joints?

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Not too bad, for hand-cut?   Had a mess to clean up on the floor..

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Got this swept up and into the trash can, then called it a day....not too bad, for three hour's of work?

13 hours ago, steven newman said:

Apparently, there IS a size smaller than#1 Phillips. 

From wiki:

 

Phillips drive bits are often designated by the letters "PH", plus a size code 0000, 000, 00, 0, 1, 2, 3, or 4 (in order of increasing size); the numerical bit size codes do not necessarily correspond to nominal screw size numbers.

 

The better old phillips screwdrivers were actually marked on the shank as being "made under license" and from my experience actually FIT the screw heads better and didn't cam out as easily.

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