February 7, 20179 yr There's 6 tapes in the shop. None have the 1/2 markings for finding center. Now, I gotta get one like that. Really handy. I have one tape, a freeby from Woodcraft, that has 1/32 marks and every 1/8" is labled. 1/8...1/4... 1/2...etc. that's handy, too.
February 7, 20179 yr Popular Post Unlike a lot of you, I never had a shop class to teach me these things. Although my father taught me the basics, most of my knowledge is from self-teaching and experience. I'm willing to bet, that, there are a lot of very good woodworkers out there who have no idea what these processes are, or how to fully utilize these types of tools...many are probably afraid to ask for fear of appearing stupid. Some could probably care less what other things these amazing tools can do other than give you a straight line. @Stick486 you might want to jump in here. We've had discussions on the differences between a framers and other types of squares...time for a teaching moment for the uninformed!!!!!???? Although most of these shortcuts are intended to help the rough carpenter they DO have their place in woodworking activities. I don't own one of the tapes mentioned in the first video that helps you find a center point. However I do own an imperial/metric tape. Although I work in imperial measurements, I often use metric to avoid converting fractions. Metric is fantastic for finding center points and equidistant spacing's.
February 7, 20179 yr I have been familiar with the markings on the tape, but forgot about the black diamond. For my wood working, I use one of those Fast Cap tapes with the direct reading fractions (3/8, 9/16, etc.) must faster and easier for me. As for the speed square and carpenter square, I have them but have never used the info on them. I do not know what all of that stuff means and I have never had a need to learn it, yet. But, now I have learned a little bit by watching the videos - Thanks Bill! As for the center finding rule, I have one of them, very handy. I have also used Bill's method of using metric, again, Thanks Bill. I have found that using metric to check for square on a cabinet or drawer is much faster and leads me to less errors vs. using a regular tape.
February 7, 20179 yr Popular Post My building days are over. Most everything I do now is round which can be a whole new ball game for measuring.
February 7, 20179 yr Popular Post 1 hour ago, schnewj said: @Stick486 you might want to jump in he and say what.. that your buddy is calling a framing square a carpenter's square... and that .91 is closer to 29/32 for the anal... also... who did what w/ the wright's square.. 1 hour ago, schnewj said: I often use metric to avoid converting fractions. Metric is fantastic for finding center points and equidistant spacing's. you know SAE well.. stick w/ it... use a forstner the same dia as the thickness of the material.... centering ruler... place your tape measure diagonally and divide by 2...center finding: ("Thales Theorem") take your ruler and place zero inches on one edge.... move the ruler diagonally across the piece till you read a number at the other edge easily divisible by two... divide... that number is is the center... find it on the ruler and make your mark... no measure... say the stock is 3/4" thick... put a 3/4" fostner bit in the DP.. slide the fence up to the bit and lock it down... presto... center of stock all done...to find that IRL measure of center... measure from the edge to the mark w/ the ruler perpendicular to the edge... finding spacing... Do your diagonal measure only instead og dividing by 2 divide by the number of pieces you want... example.. you want 5 pieces from stock 12'' wide... diagonal measure 15'' and divide by 5.. quotient is 3... every 3'' make your mark.. (3.6, 9, 12)..center finding ruler... lay the ruler on the piece and shift left or rigt till the measures are the same to both edges... mark the zero...Go to this link and hit the run button. No math required.Finding the center of a circle with any right-angled object - Math Open Referencethis look familiar??? It's done as fast-motion video.... note the joints, outriggers and diagonal bracing...https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=765116590175069lots of alternate plans, tips and ideas:http://www.leevalley.com/US/home/Videos.aspxhttp://www.leevalley.com/US/home/OptInStartN.aspxhttp://www.leevalley.com/US/home/ArticleMain.aspxhttp://www.leevalley.com/US/home/Letters.aspx go here for a variety of jigs...Center square and center line finderViewer Jig: Board Center Finder : How-To : DIY Network this one/style can be purchased ready to go or make your own... (change the size to fit the mission if need be) NOTES... measure and mark from the same edge of the rule when doing diagonal... never forget that your cutting opertion produces waste... allow for it... HowToMeasureAndMark.PDF HowToMeasureAndMark.PDF Edited February 7, 20179 yr by Stick486
February 7, 20179 yr Used all of that when I was in the Carpenter Trade......LONG TIME AGO....then saw a "Lead Carpenter" use that little blue book to figure out how to cut rafters.....went back to doing foundations after that... Now you know how I center knobs on the fronts of drawers. Well, besides marking in from each edge. To check the center measurement, I use a combo square, and come in from each side.
February 7, 20179 yr Popular Post The Stanley framing square used to come with a manual to show how to use all the functions on the square.. When I first started as a carpenter apprentice, the carpenter foreman used the framing square for his calculator. He even figured payroll off it. Herb
February 7, 20179 yr Just now, Stick486 said: seriously... Read The Flipping Manual.... HEY.... I've led a sheltered life! John
February 7, 20179 yr Just now, HARO50 said: HEY.... I've led a sheltered life! John you don't read the manuals??? eh... Edited February 7, 20179 yr by Stick486
February 7, 20179 yr 26 minutes ago, HARO50 said: I've done manual labour. Does THAT count? John Yeah, as long as you don't go into labour. That's when you've upped your game.
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