When my daughter Grace was younger my Aunt gave her this puzzle with her name on it. I decided I should put in a frame to preserve it for her. I made a box for the cardboard box the puzzle came as well. I’ll probably hold on to it until she has her first child. Hopefully that’ll be awhile.  Don’t think she’ll be much on it now since she’s just turning 16. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Very clean work Mark, that'll do just fine sir, just fine.

How'd you get the miters in so tight?

Sweet box, Mark. I’m sure she will love it when you give it to her. 

John Morris I used these

Two guys walk into a bar, hooting and hollering and carrying on.  barkeep asks why are you guys so happy?  'we just finished a really hard jigsaw puzzle!'  really?  'yes sir, the box said 4-6 years, and we got it done in 2 days!!!'

 

beers all around then!

 

37 minutes ago, LulaKelly said:

Titebond III is a great option for strong, long-lasting joints. If you're worried about squeeze-out, a damp rag helps clean it up before it dries. Clamping evenly makes a big difference.

Excellent advice Lula! Titebond III is a great go to glue.

Welcome to the forum, Lulu!

Very nice work….

 

Lulakelly…Sorry but TB3 isn’t the best glue for a picture frames..TB1 could easily be used without any sacrificing any strength..

Great point Billy, but I'd use it without worry, it's a little box and a pic frame Mark built. I'd consider color of wood for glue choice too, when I work with dark woods or have a project with dark stain I'll use dark colored glue like TB III. 

Also, knowing Mark personally and some of the challenges he has, TB III was chosen for the longer open time for him to play with the joints.

Really though, the differences are so tiny for a small mitered box or pic frame the difference is negligible in my experience. You could use TB III for virtually any application, but you can't use TB I for virtually any application. 

Here's a neat little TB chart. Kind of shows a story. We can get in the weeds with this stuff, just like our endless discussions over to poly or not to poly.

But hey, to each their own, TB or not TB 

 

 

And yes! Welcome @LulaKelly to our community!

TB3 isn’t the easiest to work. It’s hard to clean, tends to be rubbery. It’s like painting the interior of your house with exterior paint because it offers more protection.

 

I know it’s more difficult to work with and should be used where it is designed to work at its best..

 

We use TB1 in cabinetry mainly because of ease of use and easy to clean and it’s an interior project. 

 

We use TB2 in table making because it offers some resistance to moisture.

 

We use TB3 for table exposed to exterior conditions.

 

Now when I worked for Jakobe Furniture we were having problem with the tables warping after assembly  with TB2. We were about ready to go to epoxy, etc or TB3 when Titebond representives came in and said there would be no gain as it wasn’t tye glue causing tye oroblem , but the way we were stacking them. 
 

Nothing wrong with it you want to use it. Any gain, no…

17 minutes ago, BillyJack said:

TB3 isn’t the easiest to work.

I'll have to respectfully disagree Billy, it has a longer open time for complicated glue ups. I've used TB original while trying to maneuver different parts around and clamping and complex glue ups, and I found myself cussing up a storm cuz the glue closed on me. I switched to TB III and enjoyed a longer open set time and getting everything in place was much easier. As far as cleaning, I haven't seen any difference in clean up between any of the TB's. Perhaps I'm just not observant in that area to even notice.

Back to the OT though, for Marks purpose, TB III was perfectly good IMHO. And in Marks case, having that longer open time is very important.

Remember now Billy, IMHO, and we all got em! 

16 minutes ago, John Morris said:

I'll have to respectfully disagree Billy, it has a longer open time for complicated glue ups. I've used TB original while trying to maneuver different parts around and clamping and complex glue ups, and I found myself cussing up a storm cuz the glue closed on me. I switched to TB III and enjoyed a longer open set time and getting everything in place was much easier. As far as cleaning, I haven't seen any difference in clean up between any of the TB's. Perhaps I'm just observant in that area to even notice.

Back to the OT though, for Marks purpose, TB III was perfectly good IMHO. Remember now Billy, IMHO, and we all got em! 

 

Open time? That’s got nothing to do with it. It’s thicker. As it dries it’s harder to clean. If it gets into  pores of the wood, it’s much hard per to get out. 

TB1 is designed to be fast. If you don’t want it fast use regular white glue or use TB extend. TB 1 glue is designed to be fast. We want a set time of 10-30 minutes .,

 

TB3….. it brings no advantage to my projects were it was designed.I produce a lot of projects. I use TB1 on almost all my projects and will ship to TB2 on a top/ end table, etc that might catch a cup or two. Now the  glue isn’t as much the protection as the  finish.

 

As what glue I use on each project I display, but remember I’m pretty fast..

Edited February 26, 20251 yr by BillyJack

6 minutes ago, BillyJack said:

Open time? That’s got nothing to do with it. It’s thicker. As it dries it’s harder to clean. If it gets into  pores of the wood, it’s much hard per to get out. 
TB1 is designed to be fast. If you don’t want it fast use regular white glue or use TB extend. TB 1 glue is designed to be fast. We want a set time of 10-30 minutes .,

Your experience doesn't match mine with the product Billy, it's not a bad thing, it just is what it is. We have different skill sets and uses for these glues. I like the longer open time of TB III, it's works for me.

2 minutes ago, John Morris said:

Your experience doesn't match mine with the product Billy, it's not a bad thing, it just is what it is. We have different skill sets and uses for these glues. I like the longer open time of TB III, it's works for me.

I understand, I’m just pointing out the difference between need and want..

 

Edited February 26, 20251 yr by BillyJack

There it is! 

Hey there is another aspect to this discussion. That is that some of us do not use enough glue to keep 3 kinds on hand and therefore we have to decide on the properties that will fit most of the projects we do and compromise on others. I use TBIII but that does not mean everyone should.

From the Tight Bond website regarding TB III open assembly time.

 

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Titebond III Ultimate Wood Glue is the first one-part, water cleanup wood glue ever offered that is proven waterproof. The waterproof formula passes the ANSI/HPVA Type I water-resistance specification and offers superior bond strength, longer open assembly time and lower application temperature. Titebond III is solvent free and cleans up with water - safer to use than traditional waterproof wood glues. It provides strong initial tack, sands easily without softening and is FDA approved for indirect food contact (cutting boards). The ultimate in wood glues - ideal for both interior and exterior applications.

 

All that being said, I'd love to get back to glue pots and hide flakes for my furniture and chairs. Talk about a long assembly open time, you can fidget with those joints for 15 minutes or more using traditional hide glue flakes, not that you'd need too, but you could.

 

I'm going to diverge.  I went to a Titebond seminar a number of years ago that was given by their tech services manager.  He had me make a poplar 1x2 cut square on the ends.  He applied the (then new) Quick and Thick Glue (had a different name then).  In about 15 minutes he could not break that butt joint apart until he put it on some blocks and stood on it.  Since that time, I've used it on many mitered boxes and picture frames (probably about 100) and am very happy with it.  The same  guy  will be doing the main presentation at the woodworking club meeting next week.  Quick assembly time, but I can handle that having everything ready to go.  Always have a small bottle in my shop.

 

11 minutes ago, kmealy said:

In about 15 minutes he could not break that butt joint apart until he put it on some blocks and stood on it.

 

 

That's impressive! May have to get some of it.