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British Made Breast Drill (ID help)

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Picked this up on the weekend. The small decal on the gear says "British Made", and there is a "22" on the casting just behind the chuck. No other identifying marks. Anybody have any idea who would have made this?

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John

Well it's a 2 speed version very similar to a Stanley. You should be able to remove the handle and the ring gear by removing the knurled bolt in he second picture, pull the shaft out then re-position in the top hole.

It appears the breast rest is stamped versus cast?? It might be a Dunlap made during Germany's occupation within the British Zone and looking at the decal...sort of an inverted tri-angle which may have had Steel Industries Manufacturing??? name on it sorta's like the image below.

 

Buff the rust off the chuck below the knurl portion. Often times you'll find a name there. We'll wake-up @steven newman to take a look.:P

 

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looks a lot later than the two speed drill i have.   breast piece looks like stamped steel, but the handles are nice.   be careful if you take the chuck apart.   mine had (and still has) very tiny springs in there which help hold the jaws in position.   looks pretty clean.  :)

Haro, that is a really nice looking old drill, the stamped steel is really interesting on that one.

I hope you don't mind, but I changed the title of this topic to something more suitable, in order to attract more attention and for our search index to better pick up on what the topic content is about.

Great job on the tags!

 

Thanks for sharing!

Got no idea of the manufacturer, John. But, it's a great find.

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Have you looked up cordless drill on the internet? Sorry I had nothing useful to add so I went for the cheap laugh, looks cool.

Like John said the stamped steel pad should give it away but haven't found one in the searches I did.  Must be quite rare.  Nice find.

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DSC_0005.thumb.JPG.d906423fe7ed06436b7e161d7de2c32f.JPGI kinda figured it wasn't really an "antique", but probably post WW II. As for the decal, I got a better close-up with the help of an old lens from my 35mm cameras. Also shows the"22" on the casting.

John

 

 

Next step is to carefully clean and examine the crank handle to see if make and model is stamped there.   may be hard to see without close examination.   Another place to look is around the rim of the main gear.

Here is a miller falls that has the same crank and wheel wheel as yours.

 

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And another Miller Falls with the same thrust bearing as yours.  So maybe it is a Miller Falls later design with British made parts.

 

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After going through the link above the closest to yours is a Miller Falls or a Goodell Pratt.

 

Herb

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Thanks, all y'all, for your hints. (I'm developing a Southren drawl, just reading this forum!) :D I've had it apart, except for the 2-speed mechanism, and gone over it with a magnifying glass, but there are no other marks on it. The knurled nut holding the gear shaft is TIGHT, and I'm waiting for the penetrating oil to soak into the thread so I can pull the main gear. I've also looked at every picture on the internet :rolleyes: and have yet to find one with a stamped breast plate, or a knurled ring behind the chuck.

John

2 minutes ago, HARO50 said:

or a knurled ring behind the chuck.

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Thanks, Dan. I posted before updating the thread, so I didn't see your previous post until after. I'm wondering about the purpose of that ring, or at least the one om MY drill. It rotated freely, and doesn't appear to have a thread, so it's not for holding anything together.

John

2 hours ago, HARO50 said:

Thanks, Dan. I posted before updating the thread, so I didn't see your previous post until after. I'm wondering about the purpose of that ring, or at least the one om MY drill. It rotated freely, and doesn't appear to have a thread, so it's not for holding anything together.

John

Does it slide forward to release the chuck like a Yankee screw driver, to remove the chuck? Or maybe to hold onto to start the bit,then move to the fixed handle to drill.

Herb

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2 hours ago, Dadio said:

Does it slide forward to release the chuck like a Yankee screw driver, to remove the chuck? Or maybe to hold onto to start the bit,then move to the fixed handle to drill.

Herb

All it does is revolve around the shaft/casting, so your second idea is more likely.

John

5 hours ago, HARO50 said:

I'm wondering about the purpose of that ring, or at least the one om MY drill.

 

I would think it is a thrust bearing and comes into play when the pressure is applied to the bit.  It should be oiled and the shaft as well.

Found this - picture is close in some regards and Henri posts on ToolTalk

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KEEN two speed breast drill

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Bought in a charity shop, dirty and rusty.

After cleaning and lubrication.

Made by M.C. Gooding & Co. Ltd., Croydon, England.

The company was liquidated in 1959.

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Seem to recall the Millers Falls also made tools over in England.....for about the same reason Stanley did....import taxes. 

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