Popular Post steven newman Posted November 27, 2016 Popular Post Report Posted November 27, 2016 Well, this 20" long saw has sat around long enough...maybe too long.. Nasty looking? Early 50s Disston saw. 20" long. 10 ppi....Decided to at least try to rehab it. Hammer to straighten a few bends....Set the bad spots over a leg of the bench, and pound away til flat.....er. 100 grit sandpaper on the palm sander, sand through a couple pieces....PBBlaster soak a bit, then 180 grit to sand it out. Looks a little better? BLO wipe on-wipe off for the handle. IF you look closely, you can barely see the side of the Disston "Keystone " etch. There is a little bit of writing beside it, too. Right below the handle is a "10" stamped. For 10 ppi. Plate is almost as straight as I can get it......may fine tune it later.....have other things to do.. Called a saw vise. This one is a Wentworth No.1 c. 1897. Got it down to the bench and wiped it down, then installed it in the end vise.. That be a 2x6 it is bolted to. It goes into the vise to hold the saw vise for use.....first off, needed to "Joint" the scraggle teeth down. Need files for that. Both a BIG,LONG file... For "scale", that be a normal 16oz claw hammer back there. Black Diamond, made in USA, File. Wound up taking the handle off, was getting in the way.....I do have a regular jointer.. Had a smaller file in it...was a bit worn out, though. Used the large file to try to get all those teeth to the same level.... Saw isn't missing any teeth, just some were worn more than the others.....this will take a while. Maybe by then, I can find a couple saw files of the right size. And, maybe, find out a bit more about this little saw....Next time I'll be doing a bit of sharpening on this saw. Files cost more than the saw did... Cal, HandyDan, Fred W. Hargis Jr and 3 others 6 Quote
lew Posted November 27, 2016 Report Posted November 27, 2016 Gonna make a fine addition to the "family"! steven newman and Grandpadave52 2 Quote
steven newman Posted November 27, 2016 Author Report Posted November 27, 2016 Trying to keep up with the Duggars..... Quote
steven newman Posted November 29, 2016 Author Report Posted November 29, 2016 I think I have found a couple saw files......and as soon as I am able to meander to the shop. I might start shaping the teeth a bit.. File them "rip" for now. Then joint the mess down again, and shape the teeth again.....repeat until all the teeth are the same. Then, maybe add a bit of angle to the teeth's faces, called "Fleam" to make this Disston D-8 Panel saw into a crosscut saw. might take a while.... File against saw teeth....Schreeeeeech. yeah, looking forward to that noise. But, IF the saw is far enough down in the vise, the schreech sound won't be too bad.....I hope. 200 teeth to file? Eyes might go crossed after the first 50 or so..... Yeah,, Quote
steven newman Posted November 29, 2016 Author Report Posted November 29, 2016 Ok, ears still ring abit.....fingers are sore. I did find a few saw files worth using..for now. I did NOT find the handles for them.. Set the saw as low in the vise as I could, gullets almost at jaw height. Worked down from heel to toe, four strokes per tooth. Times 200 teeth. No wonder my fingers hurt. Had to stop a few times, both to rest the hands, uncross the eyes, grab another file, and move the saw to the next set of teeth. Test cut......pulled to the left.....filed the set on that side of the saw, to remove a burr on the teeth. Second test cut was a bit better. Saw still isn't "sharp" so tomorrow I get to Joint those teeth (again) and file those teeth again. Grrrr, For now, it is called shaping the teeth. I file at 90 degrees to the tooth line, with barely any lean forward of the file (rack) maybe 2-5 degrees of rake. At least for now. Goal is to get all 200 teeth the same height, and the gullets the same depth. Might take a few sessions. Need to find those #@##@$# handles I had last time. And rig a stand for the magnifier so I can actually see what I am doing. Going by just the shine is quite enough.. HARO50 and Harry Brink 2 Quote
Gene Howe Posted November 29, 2016 Report Posted November 29, 2016 Your patience and persistence is admirable. Cut some handle shapes, drill a hole a bit smaller than the file tang, put the file in a vise, tang up, heat the tang to red wth a MAPP torch and force the handle on. Been doing this for years. None have ever come loose. HARO50, steven newman and Grandpadave52 3 Quote
steven newman Posted November 30, 2016 Author Report Posted November 30, 2016 Found a file handle, and an old pin vise. Still will need a new file or two.. Jointed the teeth again. Then filed them again. Will need the new files before the final run through. Applied a coat of Lacquer to the handle, and later rubbed it out a bit. Found the "other" panel saw I have. A 22" long Disston made for someone else 10ppi skew back. The someone else? Some hardware supplier up in Cleveland, OH. IF I get back down to the shop, I'll take a few pictures of both saws... Quote
steven newman Posted November 30, 2016 Author Report Posted November 30, 2016 A Tale of two saws.. One in front is the one I'm working on now. One behind it is a Made for someone else "Cleancut" 22" long skew back, 10 ppi crosscut. Medallion says it is a Warranted Superior. Still factory sharp, I might add. I found a few handles to use.. Rogue's Gallery. Slipped the panel saw back into the saw vise.. Saw vise MIGHT be even older than me? ( 1897) I gave to teeth about 5-6 swipes with that big file to try to joint them all to the same height, again...meh. Then started to file a few teeth. Got most of the way along.. Almost to the left edge of the vise...fingers had had quite enough for today. Hmm, maybe a close-up of the two saw handles? I did give that lacquer finish on the Panel saw a decent rub down. Maybe tomorrow I can get something done... Quote
steven newman Posted December 1, 2016 Author Report Posted December 1, 2016 Have run into a snag on this saw....after using the brand new saw file to finish the latest round of teeth filing....discovered a tooth was missing. Debating on whether to just go ahead and finish filing all the "good" teeth, or....file them all off, and start a new line of teeth.......as pitted as this plate is, I think I will try to just finish the good teeth. May or may not just cut off the bad section, and make it a 16" Tool Box saw. We'll see. Will set this thing aside for a bit, have another saw in need of a rehab. Me-thinks it's teeth were done by a machine.. I think it was even still set up for that Atkins 7 ppi saw I got. Both were at an estate sale this year. I didn't have any room for the toother.....drat it. Top it off? There was a grinder sitting right next to it.. Might have been nice to have both, IF I had had the room..... Grandpadave52 1 Quote
steven newman Posted December 1, 2016 Author Report Posted December 1, 2016 Ok, placed the two shorter saws away, for now. The "Cleveland" saw is a user, haven't decided about that disston... On a brighter note, I somehow managed to not only shine up that Atkins saw, I even used that new file to correct some badly filed teeth. Might have been op-error on the Belsaw.. Called "Cow & Calf" big tooth, followed by small tooth. Now they be all..."medium" toothed. There is barely an etch there. 26" long, skew back, open top handle, 7ppi ( even has the 7 stamped under the handle) Might have been filed crosscut, at one time.... Hails from Indy,IN. Haven't decided what to do about that divot, yet. I even have the bolts in back all facing the same way... "Clocked" I drew a line on some scrap, for a test cut.. make a note of that time stamp..... Starts a bit rough, cuts fast....Carpenter's saw? Recheck with a square.. Not too hateful? I see Igor has flown back in....looks like he has a different job now? After all that hard work, I thought I'd go back upstairs and sit for awhile... If'n it isn't the GrandBRAT stealing my chair...shop cat also steals MY chair....lazy bum... Grandpadave52 1 Quote
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