September 21, 20169 yr Popular Post Well, some fellow named Gump...tion found me, and hauled me off to the shop today.. And I am plumb worn out. Glad this isn't an everyday thing. Anyway, there is a plane in the shop, in need of a "bit of work" (where have I heard that one, before?) to make it at least try to do it's job.. A strange looking beastie? I had already done it's "twin" last spring. This one was put on hold, as some of the parts were loaners. Rear handle is a Walnut one I had made for another plane. The chipbreaker is a Stanley orphan. The rest is called an Ohio Tool Co. No.035. Almost the same as a Stanley #35....almost being the operative word. The plane as is can rock back and forth, only the area around the mouth can touch the wood, sometimes. It won't take a shaving.. I backed the iron all the way out, drew some lines. A few trips on the beltsander.....The high spot was from the mouth to about halfway to the tail end. I was going to leave everything in place for the next step...but, I didn't want to hit anything NOT wood.. Stanley 5-1/2 took things down to FLAT. Wood body wanted to squirm around a bit. But, finally a straight edge showed how things were... ThenI ran the palmsander around, to knocked some sharp corners, and a few nasty spots on the sides and top.. Now, there is ONE bolt in this entire plane, other than the one for the depth adjuster. The rear handle has one like a normal plane, but everything else is large screws. Which I used a wire wheel in the drill press to clean off. Lever cap had rust the needed to leave.. Wire wheel to shine things up. This is how they are supposed to look. Frame needed some new paint.. As did the frog. Wire wheel to remove the bad spots, and the rust. Rattle can black.. Set aside to dry. There was plenty of time to dry, too, as I had this thing to do, next.. Yep, that is a Tapered Iron. Not sure if this one is laminated or not....Drug out the sharpening stuff. After awhile riding the beltsander.... Angle WAS @ 25degrees, had to raise it a bit..maybe to 28 degrees.. I'd run the bevel till too hot for fingertips, dunk in the water, run the back a bit, dunk, and so on, until I thought is was ready for the stone.. Same as the other day..600 grit stone, 1K grit paper, 2K grit paper. Working the bevel and the back....then a lot of swipes on the old belt.. Back of the iron is flat and polished, curve on the chipbreaker as well.. I think that will do for the edge? Like I said earlier, the chipbreaker is a loaner. Bolt is not designed for the tapered irons. The slot for the depth adjuster is in the wrong spot as well. We make do in this shop, though. Somehow got this back together. and started the re-assembly. Paint was a hair tacky.... All but the long handle bolt are sloted screws. Finally got everthing back in place... And a coat of the BLO/Varnish mix on the wood parts..except the sole. it will get a coat of wax. Before the blo/varnish arrived, gave this a test drive,, Oh, it will peel shavings, alright. I need to get an Ohio Tool Co. chipbreaker to help set the depth better....than tapping things with a hammer. Not too bad, for a $1 plane. While I had the brush and Mix out, I cleaned off all the crud from another old plane.. A Stanley No.28 small jointer plane. It has "Bailey" cast around the front knob. I won this and a #29 at an auction last year....for the grand total of $5 for the pair. #29 is awaiting replacement parts. Might be awhile.... Sooo, now you know WHY I am all tuckered out, today...( still don't have a beer in the house, let alone in the fridge..)
September 21, 20169 yr When I saw you use the belt sander I was wondering why you didn't use a plane, then I scrolled down. Ya scared me Steven! How bad was the mouth after you flattened it? I've had to scab in a piece of wood on a couple because the mouth was too wide after this process. Good luck on the chipbreaker. I don't think I have seen one of these Ohio's in decades let alone any parts. I will keep my eyes open for you, though.
September 21, 20169 yr Author Have to remember, with that thick tapered iron, this plane does need a large mouth opening, The is a lot of iron to get through the opening.....about like trying to fit a Hock iron in a type 2 Stanley smooth plane. All I wanted was to lower the higher spots down to match the rest. Didn't need to plane the full sole down.
September 22, 20169 yr 16 hours ago, steven newman said: Have to remember, with that thick tapered iron, this plane does need a large mouth opening, The is a lot of iron to get through the opening.....about like trying to fit a Hock iron in a type 2 Stanley smooth plane. All I wanted was to lower the higher spots down to match the rest. Didn't need to plane the full sole down. The problem usually is, that, over time this needs to be done over and over. Wear, wood changes, etc all cause the sole to go out of whack. The more you shave off of the sole the wider the mouth gets. Eventually, it is too wide and you need to close it up a little. I have a wood body plane that is probably 150-160 years old. It is still very usable, but the original iron is about at its limit and the mouth is getting a little wide. I still use it but if I want to continue the next time it gets tuned up I'll have to replace the iron and or take steps to close up the mouth a little bit.
September 22, 20169 yr On 9/21/2016 at 6:08 PM, steven newman said: Well, some fellow named Gump...tion found me, and hauled me off to the shop today.. And I am plumb worn out. Glad this isn't an everyday thing. That, then would be called a job! However no wonder your just PLANE tuckered out! Enjoyed this one since it was a wooden plane body vs steel. I'm enjoying the learning. Thanks for sharing Steven.
September 22, 20169 yr If you haven't seen this yet, maybe put on your Christmas list: https://blog.lostartpress.com/2016/08/29/now-in-the-store-stanley-catalogue-no-34/
September 23, 20169 yr 6 minutes ago, kmealy said: If you haven't seen this yet, maybe put on your Christmas list: https://blog.lostartpress.com/2016/08/29/now-in-the-store-stanley-catalogue-no-34/ Thanks Keith! I've always enjoyed old catalog(ue)s. Especially tools, but re--print Sears & Roebuck, J.C. Penny's & Montgomery Wards are very interesting. I've seen an original Sears where you could order your own home to build. Attention Everyone: This is now on my Christmas list if you needed ideas!
September 23, 20169 yr Author May have to dig out the old 1500+ page catalog from Boswick Braun of Toledo. Near as I can tell, it was from 1943. Late FIL came home from flying around in B-17s, to help out HIS dad run a hardware store. This was THE catalog to order ANYTHING a Hardware Store might have for sale. From "Axes" to Swingsets. You could even order not only the firearm, but the bullets and acounterments that went with them. Lots of Stanley items, amongst other dealers. There was a skinnier version from 1953.....long gone now.....lot of changes Did you know you could order a Spark plug for a clothes dryer from the #43 Boswick Braun catalog. Would love to get that old 20 pound catalog reprinted....
September 23, 20169 yr 2 hours ago, Grandpadave52 said: . I've seen an original Sears where you could order your own home to build. My wife grew up in a Sears house built by her father and Opa (Grandfather). My father-in-law was a skilled watchmaker, but limited building skills. I think Opa was a better carpenter.
September 23, 20169 yr Author I seem to recall them as being called "Craftsman" houses.... Dad used to drive down to Dayton,OH where they had a HUGE Sear & Roebuck Store......near 3rd street, by the river....5 stories? He was 1000% Craftsman tool. But, he wasn't above getting things ( non tool, of course) from either the local Montgomery Wards store, or the Western Auto Store... Kinnan's Hardware in DeGraff, OH. Win Kinnan also published "Huff's Fair Directory" every season, for the Harnass Race crowd....John Doak Kinnan took over at both places after Win "retired"
September 23, 20169 yr 6 minutes ago, steven newman said: Western Auto Store... My first couple sets of mechanics wrenches came from our local Western Auto...I was probably 11 or 12. Also bought a "Sting-ray" (banana seat) bike from them on "credit." About the same age; had a paper route and they were one of my customers. 9 minutes ago, steven newman said: I seem to recall them as being called "Craftsman" houses.... I think that in part had top do with the style/architecture of that era...Craftsman. They are highly sought after and prized homes for restoration today. My grand-dad and dad purchased a lot of Blue-Grass Hardware tools (Louisville, KY)...I have a few of them. I still have quite a few 7-1/4" HSS circular saw blades (most have been sharpened 4/5x) & jig saw blades in OP I bought years ago. My first power tools were a 7-1/4" Skil saw, Skil VS Jig saw, and Skil 1/3 Sheet straight/orbit sander all bought from a Blue Grass Hardware. Still have all 3 today and all work perfectly. Over 40 y/o.
September 23, 20169 yr Sears had quite a few home plans to choose from. Click on the dates in the second line of this link to view. http://www.searsarchives.com/homes/byimage.htm
September 24, 20169 yr 12 hours ago, HandyDan said: Sears had quite a few home plans to choose from. Click on the dates in the second line of this link to view. http://www.searsarchives.com/homes/byimage.htm Cool site Dan. I'd never seen this one...bookmarked now. Thanks!
September 24, 20169 yr On September 22, 2016 at 6:54 PM, kmealy said: If you haven't seen this yet, maybe put on your Christmas list: https://blog.lostartpress.com/2016/08/29/now-in-the-store-stanley-catalogue-no-34/ That's really cool. I have several No 34 original catalogs. the red he red one is an original and is dated 1914. It is the oldest I have and the newest is 1954 the year I was born. I have them them in a cabinet I display my Boxwood and Ivory rulers in. couldnt get them all in the picture but a large part of them.
September 24, 20169 yr 23 minutes ago, John Moody said: ...couldnt get them all in the picture but a large part of them. You sir don't have a collection, you have a museum! I would love to see more. Man, the story those tools could tell if only they could talk. Since you've opened this can of worms, I'm probably gonna' have lots of questions for you from time-to-time.
September 24, 20169 yr 6 hours ago, Grandpadave52 said: You sir don't have a collection, you have a museum! I would love to see more. Man, the story those tools could tell if only they could talk. Since you've opened this can of worms, I'm probably gonna' have lots of questions for you from time-to-time. Bring them on, I love to talk about the old tools. I have some that are uses and are in the shop and some that are now in cabinets just to be preserved and on display. I have them sitting all around the house in most every room. I have restored some and some are in original condition. If you will search "Patriot Picking" you will find a lot of the ones I have posted here. I have some that have not made it to the site yet though.
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