Doing nothing this morning I thought I would compare Amazon and Wood Carvers Supply with the same 1/8"bits I use all the time since Woodcarvers supply has the original numbers beside their numbers in their catalog.. These pictured on the left side of the page are the ones I use most ll the time... the 1/4" bits are too big for getting into tight places but some are okay for starting the process. I think I ordered these in the middle of 2015 so they have lasted through all my clocks and still look like new once I get them out of the bottle of lacquer thinner and clean them up with a real fine b