Things I don't understand

[kmealy]

Maybe I'm just a grumpy old guy, but

 

Things I don't really like or want to do

* Live edge furniture

* Epoxied "river" tables

* Flame treated wood, particularly softwoods

* Polyurethane on everything

* Cedar picket planter boxes

 

Suggested tools for starting out

* Miter saw - a table saw will do everything it can

* Track saw - does one thing well, but can't do 95% of what a table saw can do, maybe if all you did was plywood

* Air nailer, brad gun -  you can really get by without this, unless you've watched too much Norm Abram

* MFT table - meh

 

While I'm at it, a Domino would be nice, but I can't justify $20 per joint for all the use I'd get out of it.

 

Polyurethane Gorilla Glue -- short shelf life, messy, foams out, ruins clothes, stains flesh, does not gap fill, not easily re-done if it fails

[frenchwwr]

-I've used a live edge to nice effect but in an old New England house there are not a lot of places for it

-Rivers are meant to be canoed

-Flamed wood is for campfires, (see rivers above)

-Friends don't let friends Ploy, especially GLOSS

-I don't find much Cedar in the Pallet Pile

 

-Guilty, I have a Miter Saw: A miter saw is a specialized tool that lets you make cuts at a variety of angles. The saw has a blade mounted on a swing arm that pivots left or right to produce angled cuts. You can use a miter saw to quickly make cuts for crown molding, picture frames, door frames, window casings and more.">CMS, Miter Saw">SCMS, and a RAS

-I've got a small shop that is tough to rip a board let alone sheet goods

-I like my Air Nailers and especially my Air DE-Nailer

-MFT tables look expensive

 

- I fly with Ryobi

 

-I had a Gorilla Glue error

 

-Rulers with numbers on the 1/8th, and 1/4"

 

 

[lew]

+1 on most everything but I do like my pneumatic brad nailer for some things. 

[kmealy]

I don't really have a problem with miter saws or pneumatic nailers.  I have them, just don't consider them mandatory for a starter set for a newbie.

[Larry Buskirk]

SWMBO 

[John Morris]

On 2/26/2024 at 1:58 PM, kmealy said:

Maybe I'm just a grumpy old guy,

Yup!

[lew]

1 hour ago, kmealy said:

I don't really have a problem with miter saws or pneumatic nailers.  I have them, just don't consider them mandatory for a starter set for a newbie.

Agreed 

[kmealy]

On 2/26/2024 at 6:17 PM, frenchwwr said:

-I've used a live edge to nice effect but in an old New England house there are not a lot of places for it

-Rivers are meant to be canoed

-Flamed wood is for campfires, (see rivers above)

-Friends don't let friends Ploy, especially GLOSS

 

 

-Rulers with numbers on the 1/8th, and 1/4"

 

 

I did a large framing job for a high-end painter (paintings were going for $20k-30K each).  On one of the large ones, he had mis-measured the canvas so the painting didn't  fit.  Fortunately, it was too big and not too small, so I could  re-cut the corners and make it smaller.  It was about 5' x 7' with compound miters and froo-froo on the joints.  I got a tape measure with fractions marked for future such jobs.

[kmealy]

And I see people say ditch the table saw and get a track saw.  Sorry, there are so many things, like  joinery, cuts on the edge of a board and repeatable cuts, that a table saw can do that a track saw just cannot.

[frenchwwr]

I agree about TSs. I am a huge fan of TSs, especially Old TSs, that's why I have two with a third one on the way. I just don't have the room to cut large sheet goods.

Maybe I should get rid of a TS.

[John Morris]

Hey guys, get a Shopsmith, it'll do everything for ya, from making your cup o coffee in the morning to mowing the grass, and ya it does woodworking too, got mine and love it, problem solved for all your concerns!

[kmealy]

While we're talking about things I don't understand, corner clamps.

 

While they hold things at 90 degrees (+-), they don't really do anything to tighten the joint, whether it's a miter or a butt joint.

 

[kmealy]

And people that recommend tongue oil.

[p_toad]

12 hours ago, kmealy said:

they don't really do anything to tighten the joint,

that's why they make wiggle nails. 

[knockonit]

and here i thought i was an anomaly that didnt' get or like some of the ''new tool on the block'' stuff, capitilism, gotta love it.

 

and yeah, i tried the ''track saw'' must have its place as they sell them and i sold mine, i'm a old school table saw guy and a skil saw with a straight edge, life is good if one pays attention to the little things i life.

happy thursday

rj in az