I just noticed that after my name I have been given the title "Master Carpenter". I feel that is unfair for the real master carpenter. I propose that you create a new title called,

"Master Tinker" I'd feel a lot more comfortable with that and that is really accurate too

I had inquired about that last year when my status changed as well.  It has nothing to do with skillset, for those whose ego is easily bruised, okay it does.  If you look to the right it refers to it as RANK.  So you have been promoted so to speak.  Not really sure on the criteria for it, like you I by no means feel I am a master craftsman.  My head still fits through the same small door I came through each day.  

 

Do like the Master Tinker idea though. 

I never knew what they have for me and after I looked I still don't know what a journey is?

3 minutes ago, Gunny said:

I had inquired about that last year when my status changed as well.  It has nothing to do with skillset, for those whose ego is easily bruised, okay it does.  If you look to the right it refers to it as RANK.  So you have been promoted so to speak.  Not really sure on the criteria for it, like you I by no means feel I am a master craftsman.  My head still fits through the same small door I came through each day.  

 

Do like the Master Tinker idea though. 

RHIP, Gunny. Though, what they are eludes me. 

I'm my dog's master....until she decides I'm not. 

I started to ask my wife what she thinks of my title, but didn't. After all the years, I don't think she would be impressed. Its more like, Jack of all trades, master at none. I'll just go with the flo

Rank is determined by number of topics and posts and I believe gallery and files too.

After an apprentice leaves the master's shop....they would travel from place to place, wearing out the walking staff they were presented,and keeping a log book about all their work that was done.   When they felt confident enough, they would return to the Guild Hall where they started from, and try to build a "Master's Piece"  that the Guild masters would then judge..if the Journeyman impressed the Guild....they could then award the title of Master.  

 

You MIGHT look up how the French Carpenters of today are schooled and put to work....they do have their own "Guild" yet today.  Worth the looksee.   just be careful around that HUGE chisel they carry around... 

3 hours ago, Ron Altier said:

I started to ask my wife what she thinks of my title, but didn't. After all the years, I don't think she would be impressed. Its more like, Jack of all trades, master at none. I'll just go with the flo

Well I can make you a really nice Certificate, make it official and all.  Maybe use that aged parchment paper like a college diploma.  

1 hour ago, steven newman said:

and try to build a "Master's Piece"  that the Guild masters would then judge..if the Journeyman impressed the Guild....they could then award the title of Master.  

I am guessing that making a drawer out of OSB, edge banded with pine, is NOT going to get me too far?   

 

 

 

 

Or...a plane til out of pine...

If it makes y'all feel any better.

I officially declare all us woodworkers in this community, "HACKS!"

There, you have been declared. The titles you can do with what you want.

When I was an Apprentice Pipe Fitter I was told...

"An Apprentice is lower than whale crap on the bottom of the ocean"

 

So I asked "Doe's that mean a Journeyman is the whale?"

 

Whale crap??  That is really getting deep.

34 minutes ago, Ron Altier said:

Whale crap??  That is really getting deep.

Hey @HARO50, where's that monkey???

Here ya go, Gene!

John

9 hours ago, John Morris said:

If it makes y'all feel any better.

I officially declare all us woodworkers in this community, "HACKS!"

There, you have been declared. The titles you can do with what you want.

Yes, senior  "SUPER HACk"    Love it!

 

Description; Usually an older person who loves to tinker, invent solutions and just waste time anyway they see fit. 

Many have worked all their lives and now enjoy doing what ever pleases them.

Edited April 30, 20206 yr by Ron Altier
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Since we’re kinda coming up with names/ranks for ourselves, I’m thinking HWMNBLT (He Who Must Not Be Listened To)

I used to use "master carpenter and Craftsman" on my business cards.

Now they know me by reputation and price.

Put any name you want on me, I know who I am.

17 minutes ago, DRAGON1 said:

I used to use "master carpenter and Craftsman" on my business cards.

Now they know me by reputation and price.

Put any name you want on me, I know who I am.

I worked for several shops where if you were ASE certified or had  a Master ASE certification we were required to wear the patch on our shoulder.  So when you leave for lunch everybody and there brother asked questions.  These days I don't even wear a nametag or business patch at our private shop.  The less they know the better.  Like you wrote, I know who I am and what I can do.  After work, nobody needs to know.  

Just FYI, in French "jour" is "day".   A journeyman was above apprentice and lower than master.

 

Origin

late Middle English: from journey (in the obsolete sense ‘day's work’) + man; so named because the journeyman was no longer bound by indentures but was paid by the day.


I always snorted at Norm getting himself called a "master" because there was no such thing, officially.