January 2, 20206 yr comment_214273 I'm tooling up to do my first resin table and I'd rather not spend the $600 for the Festool track saw I'm seeing in all the videos. Is there a comparable model that performs as well? I definitely won't be a high volume producer. Don't need it to do any specialized functions. Just need it to have settings for cut depths and use a vacuum system. Report
January 3, 20206 yr comment_214283 I don’t have one but recently saw information on using your own saw and adding the track kit. I think Makita and Dewalt both have the entire setup. Report
January 3, 20206 yr comment_214285 No dust collection --https://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/catalog/track_saw_system.htm Makita - https://www.toolnut.com/makita-sp6000j1-6-1-2-track-saw-with-55-guide-rail.html?utm_source=google_shopping&gclid=Cj0KCQiAxrbwBRCoARIsABEc9sgB1uqqU9H5P1wo_ZYZXw3T1_2ShDj6F06fGYsGNMbqscEKD4mDa8kaAun-EALw_wcB Dewalt -- https://www.cpooutlets.com/dewalt-dcs520st1-flexvolt-60v-max-6-1-2-in.--165mm--cordless-track-saw-kit-with-59-in.-track/dewndcs520st1.html?ref=pla&zmam=31282435&zmas=47&zmac=722&zmap=dewndcs520st1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAxrbwBRCoARIsABEc9sgl9JJ_7ZXJAI6XjathKF2EAnhek06l0lf1fixmF7saISUIj-O_ZuAaAtz0EALw_wcB Rockler - - https://www.rockler.com/power-tools/sawing/circular-saws-and-track-saws Or just Google. Report
January 3, 20206 yr comment_214286 Brad, I have used my friend’s Grizzly and it does a remarkable job but it’s pricey also. Have you done an eBay or Craigslist search? Report
January 3, 20206 yr comment_214287 I'd go with my left-handed Milwaukee circ saw, 2 straight maple boards and a few clamps. Or a big router and a straight bit. Wet/dry vac and some duct tape for the dust. But hey, that's just me. Edited January 3, 20206 yr by DRAGON1 Report
January 3, 20206 yr Author comment_214310 Man I've spent so much on new tools already I'm probably gonna have to go budget here until I can afford the better track systems. And by that I mean just a regular circular saw with a straight edge guide to run it up against. Any recommendation for a good deep cutting circular saw that would work ok with a straight edge guide, like just a straight maple board like Dragon suggests? Report
January 3, 20206 yr comment_214319 I didn't see the videos, but I get a bit cynical when I see them pushing expensive tools. I just had excellent results with my Makita 5007MG, a new fine cut Diablo blade and plywood with a factory edge. The bottom plate is thicker than just a thin steel plate and seems to run along a straight edge better. However, I often manage to get the cord caught at a critical point if I'm not careful. At the risk of stating the obvious to this talented forum - good side down. Jim Report
January 3, 20206 yr comment_214321 Welcome aboard, I too would suggest a homemade guide and a circ saw (except for the vacuum part). but stick around and let us know what you decide to do (and how well it works). Report
January 3, 20206 yr comment_214325 My track saw is shop made. A length of T track buried in a like length of 3/4" plywood and, a corresponding T track insert bolted to the sole plate of a Skil 77. Cheap and accurate. Report
January 3, 20206 yr comment_214355 13 hours ago, FlGatorwood said: No dust collection --https://www.shopsmith.com/ownersite/catalog/track_saw_system.htm Makita - https://www.toolnut.com/makita-sp6000j1-6-1-2-track-saw-with-55-guide-rail.html?utm_source=google_shopping&gclid=Cj0KCQiAxrbwBRCoARIsABEc9sgB1uqqU9H5P1wo_ZYZXw3T1_2ShDj6F06fGYsGNMbqscEKD4mDa8kaAun-EALw_wcB Dewalt -- https://www.cpooutlets.com/dewalt-dcs520st1-flexvolt-60v-max-6-1-2-in.--165mm--cordless-track-saw-kit-with-59-in.-track/dewndcs520st1.html?ref=pla&zmam=31282435&zmas=47&zmac=722&zmap=dewndcs520st1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAxrbwBRCoARIsABEc9sgl9JJ_7ZXJAI6XjathKF2EAnhek06l0lf1fixmF7saISUIj-O_ZuAaAtz0EALw_wcB Rockler - - https://www.rockler.com/power-tools/sawing/circular-saws-and-track-saws Or just Google. Add to the list, Kreg, Report
January 3, 20206 yr comment_214366 12 hours ago, bradleyheathhays said: Any recommendation for a good deep cutting circular saw How deep? Love my Makita w/ 7 1/4" blade Report
January 3, 20206 yr Popular Post comment_214369 Well I do things a little different.. I do lots of welding and one day I was at a metal building supply and was watching the big metal presses or what ever they are called slicing strips of metal and ask if he would slice me off a few different lengths while he was there doing that.. So a short story, I have been using the three strips for a straight edge 4, 8 and 10 foot long for 40 years or more. I was just guessing at the time and had them cut 4" wide and figured that would handle any straight edge clamping I needed to do and have concluded that was a good choice back then. So I have never thought of a track saw for two reasons, no where to have one mounted and don't even need one anymore.. And I would have to go out to the shop to see if they are 1/8 or 3/16" thick. What ever they are was a great idea back then... Report
January 3, 20206 yr comment_214373 I have always used a homemade. Good hardwood strip , poplar I think, attached to Masonite or other hardboard 1/4 Run the saw against the hardwood and you are left with a edge to match the kerf for alignment purposes. Hangs on the wall Report
January 3, 20206 yr comment_214377 I have found when using wood strips they will warp when there is moisture or when its extra dry and the metal just lays there. I also use stick it sand paper every few inches so sometimes I don't have to use clamps when just drawing lines but with a saw pushing against the metal I do use clamps. Report
January 6, 20206 yr comment_214575 On 1/3/2020 at 3:46 PM, Gerald said: I have always used a homemade. Good hardwood strip , poplar I think, attached to Masonite or other hardboard 1/4 Run the saw against the hardwood and you are left with a edge to match the kerf for alignment purposes. Hangs on the wall Been using one of those for about 15 years. I put big boards on the ground, put down my jig and clamp into place. Don't care about the dust collection as all the sawdust goes into the grass. Oh, I use 2 X 4's on the ground, my stock on top, clamp on my guide and saw. Report
January 6, 20206 yr comment_214586 Thank you, Keith. I tried to find the link to Kregg the other day when I posted the others, but somehow, it continued to escape me. Great video by the way. Report
January 6, 20206 yr comment_214630 14 hours ago, FlGatorwood said: I put big boards on the ground, put down my jig and clamp into place. Don't care about the dust collection as all the sawdust goes into the grass. I put rigid foam insulation board (the blue stuff) on my table (hate to bend down or kneel). Hardboard and glued-on guide (per Gerald) works with any circ saw, and keep in mind that the hardboard doesn't shrink/expand, so it will hold the guide straight (and/or, use plywood as a guide?). My circ saw has a dust connection, but if yours doesn't, a box fan will keep the dust off your face. I think something like a 40 tooth blade (which is what Festool uses) would give a good edge. And you can further improve the edges (especially for infrequent application) by taping top and bottom of cut line, which greatly reduces edge splinters. A little bit of an upgrade to that is a clamping straight edge, which comes in 2', 4' and 8' lengths. If someone hadn't given me an F-tool, I'd still be using the clamp edges. They worked quite well (8" wide conformed aluminum doesn't bend horizontal). Report
January 8, 20206 yr Author comment_214749 Thanks for all the great information guys. Guess I'll be spending some dough either way I go. Since I'm just starting to design these tables and my business success is far from assured, someone suggested I could just cut down the table edges with a router. And since I just got a good 1.75 hp Dewalt plunge router I'm thinking maybe this would be the more economical route for me. Is say a 3" edge cut possible on a router, possibly with multiple depth cuts? Any ideas on using a router instead of some kind of guided circular saw? Report
January 8, 20206 yr comment_214755 3" DEEP???? That's really taxing ta small router (maybe even a big one), even if you can find a bit that will go that deep. I don't think I would try it, but that's just me. Report
January 8, 20206 yr comment_214784 A lot of good suggestions for you in the posts above. And I have looked into some nice track saws over the years, budget being one concern, SPACE being another. So I have worked with what I have used and can afford. Below are two items you can buy that will perform the task to a fair amount of accuracy. Both tools can be used for other things so you get a lot of bang for your buck. I have cut down sheet goods and doors for many years with nothing more than these two tools. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Empire-98-in-Cutting-Guide-E902/203175575 https://www.homedepot.com/p/RYOBI-13-Amp-Corded-7-1-4-in-Circular-Saw-CSB125/205216317 Report
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