Clean out day

[steven newman]

Everyone hates these sort of days....Mom is staying in an assisted living center....her house has been sold....the "kids" and their kids have to go in and clean things out, before the new owners arrive.   What we don't want, will go to an estate Auctioneer....

So....Dad was a Mechanic...all his life....had two full sets of about every tools Craftsman, S&K, Proto ever sold...I got the set he used at the house...I also got a ladder or two..

8 footer.   Got a couple lawn chairs..

Not sure how well this will do in gravel...

Have spent many an hour on this thing..with these in use..

Anyone know what this big tool was for?

There was quite a bit of tools for working on cars..

I'm  keeping these two..

Just in case I change my own oil...

Or a tire.  As to what all of these are sitting on?

The wheels are in the house, along with the wrenches, mitre gauge, and blade guard (2)

While there was a drill index...

There was also this..

Drill Mug?  There were a few other power tools..

Weller, B&D, Craftsman.   Framing square is an oldie.  Tag on the one 2' level says "FURROW"...the one behind it?

Port Austin, MICH. USA.....about as old as I am. 

Then there was this box...

Not sure what that is...but what IS inside?

Taps..lots of taps..some were a bit BIG...

The two bigger ones are both 7/8"....from there on down....regular and Pipe thread ones. 

Coffee can full of hole saws?   Anyone need these yellow plugs?

In addition to about every size wrench, screwdriver, socket sets ( all of which in now in my roll-around) and pliers...I haven't even started on this bucket..

Along with quite a few electrical tools and supplies.    A "Trouble Light", and a cord in a reel ( needs a plug)...We had a pickup truck and the van loaded...whew.

 

Need to find a decent 8" saw blade..sometime. 

BTW..what is this "level"

Almost like looking through a gunsight....Bonus question..

Says Stanley on it?

[lew]

45 minutes ago, steven newman said:

Says Stanley on it?

Christmas tree light tester.

 

Bitter sweet job. I'm not looking forward to it when the time comes. My Mom is in an Independent Living facility now and she tries to give us stuff every week.

 

 

[Smallpatch]

Steve if those are individual pieces on that long shaft and are different diameters inside and out side they are to align a new clutch as it is being installed...as the pressure plate goes over the clutch plate. I have a set but are much smaller... Use to everything had to be bigger to last as the metal and the machining was not much when those first cars started showing up.. The long shaft slid in first then the right size bushing went over the shaft, the clutch plate fit over the bushing and centered it for the transmission to slide in through all those holes..... The standard shift transmission could not  go through all the holes if they were not in alignment.....Standard transmissions are still having to be installed that way.

[Larry Buskirk]

Steve,

Man can we relate. 

BTDT x2  

[Smallpatch]

Also in that bucket up at the top is a round metal cylinder with a bolt sticking out the right side. If it had threads on the outside of the hollow end which is about 1 1/16" in diameter that tool would remove the old style air conditioner clutch. But since it don't have threads showing it is a different puller for something else and I haven't figure to remove what???

 

   This picture is a later model clutch aligning set.

 

Edited October 9, 2018 by Smallpatch

[steven newman]

Tapered, threaded..."Owatonna Tool Co."     Owatonna, Minn.  400-4    made in U.S.A.

 

End of the bolt has a plunger.

[steven newman]

Ok...Part 2...some of these pictures are a bit..fuzzy....not the best at hand-held camera stuff...

This was the roll-around I used at PlastiPak....was a bit full to begin with....every screwdriver, wrench,pliers, socket sets, and other handtools goes in here...some will head to the Dungeon Shop..

Metal head is both a lead and a brass head well used, too.  I placed about 8 different gear pullers in the bottom black drawer, BTW...cleaned out that bucket...

That one little pair of pliers (I have used them, BTW)..wonder how many know what they were used for?

Spark plug setter....

IF dad needed a wrench to go into a certain spot...he wasn't above altering a wrench...Die is by "HANDY" and is 1/4" 20. Wrench beside the screwdriver is Metric.

2 sets, both Craftsman.  Wonder how many here remember what these were for....

3/4" drive and smaller sockets..metal tray ones are Craftsman Metric sockets..

Dad had a bench out in the garage at the house...his "side jobs" were fixing friends and family's cars, trucks, and even a tractor.   He kept a set of tools on the bench for just such jobs.  Most I have already shown, there was also this set, and..

This set.  Plus a lot of pliers, wrenches, and screwdrivers.    About any, and every tool he would need for a job.  

He "first job" was working on a Ford flat head V-8 engine.   Has been a Mechanic ever since.

[p_toad]

Your pliers look like hog ring pliers (not close enough to tell; some have a "stop" built in).   Those little wrenches are handy to have around.   I still have my original Craftsman set. 

[steven newman]

Remember the old Bench Seats in cars?    There was a special clip to attach a fabric covering over the seat.    They hooked the fabric to the metal springs in the seats...Pliers were to crimp the clips into place.

 

Small wrenches were called Ignition Wrenches....

 

Dad was having trouble one day...was trying to remove the engine block from a Ford.   Engine was one of those flat head v-8....Grandpa Lew walked by, asked what the trouble was...then ask Dad  "where ya want it?"    Then, reached down and lifted the block out of the car, and then set it down where dad wanted it....didn't even break a sweat....

[steamshovel]

What do I need to do get rid of it all. Give it away, sell at auction. Go back in house and twiddle my thumbs. I'm old and hurt like #@%& , but I still get a twinkle to do something in the shop. What takes me a week on some things used to be an hour. I still haven't figured out how to take it all with me. I hope where ever it goes I hope it has a good home. I sure will miss it.

 

Preston 

[HandyDan]

2 hours ago, p_toad said:

Your pliers look like hog ring pliers

 

Maybe he can set up shop and use them to install nose rings.  I still have a set of those pliers and the rings too.

[p_toad]

Same type plier was used for upholstery and for critters.  At least 5 or more sizes that i know about (for rings) and lots of companies made the various pliers.   I think i have two pair hiding around here somewhere. 

[steven newman]

OK...that all-metal 3/8" B&D drill now has a new cord...WITH a grounding pin in the plug.   Test drive?   Runs great, no "zaps" felt....

That Berger item?

Apparently can be used like a hand-held Builder's Level.....has a peep-hole to look through, inside are the level lines ( like a gunsight)....light will shine down through the level's vial in the top....projecting an image of the bubble onto the sight lines......Maybe Morris would like one? 

 

Adjuster wheels for the tablesaw:   JB Weld to re-attach them in place?    Saw uses an 8" saw blade....but they need a 1/2" arbour hole....not 5/8".

[Dadio]

1 hour ago, steven newman said:

OK...that all-metal 3/8" B&D drill now has a new cord...WITH a grounding pin in the plug.   Test drive?   Runs great, no "zaps" felt....

That Berger item?

Apparently can be used like a hand-held Builder's Level.....has a peep-hole to look through, inside are the level lines ( like a gunsight)....light will shine down through the level's vial in the top....projecting an image of the bubble onto the sight lines......Maybe Morris would like one? 

 

Adjuster wheels for the tablesaw:   JB Weld to re-attach them in place?    Saw uses an 8" saw blade....but they need a 1/2" arbour hole....not 5/8".

If you find an 8" dia. blade you can use a reduced ring fro a skillsaw blade to reduce it down.

 

https://www.amazon.com/Circular-Saw-Blades-8-Inch/s?page=1&rh=n%3A552292%2Cp_n_size_browse-bin%3A387871011

 

https://www.amazon.com/Freud-BL71MBA9-8-Inch-2-Inch-Bushing/dp/B00004RK80 

 

can you believe the price?  I I found all the ones I threw away over the years and sell them for that I could have retired 10 year early.

Edited October 10, 2018 by Dadio

[Grandpadave52]

Wow, don't know how I forgot this; appears I had "Liked" a couple posts then???...too many tabs open and forgetting what I read or saw (no pun) or who knows what distraction here...my responses below was still queued so IDK...anyways...

 

...Sorry for the circumstances Steven that brought this trove of treasures to you, but happy you are the recipient of so many great items that you can relate to and will both appreciate & use.

On 10/10/2018 at 3:56 PM, steven newman said:

Saw uses an 8" saw blade....but they need a 1/2" arbour hole....not 5/8".

Not doubting you on this, just surprised. Even the little bench top B&D table saw I have has 5/8" arbor. I thought Craftsman was consistent on the model you have keeping the 5/8." Most all 6-1/2" to 8" hand

held circular saws use 5/8" as well unless they use the diamond knock-out. Assume you already have verified trying to put on one of your 7-1/2" blades??? When you get a chance, might post the model number.  In addition to Herb's links, you might find these at Lowe's HD, Menard's, Ace??? https://vermontamerican.com/products/replacement-arbor-bushings/

 

On 10/8/2018 at 2:49 PM, steven newman said:

Anyone know what this big tool was for?

Does this thing rachet or is the long handle more of a "deadman" handle? Do the parts below the handle move (rotate)? Was the OTC number you gave for this or something else?

The knurling on both the larger upper rings and lower smaller diameter shaft and what appears to be on the small diameter "pilot" is throwing me.

 

The round puller at top part of the bucket could be a transmission tail shaft seal remover (so you don't have to disassemble); As Patch said, it does resemble an A/C compressor clutch tool. Since it doesn't appear threaded on the outside diameter, could be used to press back on the compressor shaft. The large bolt would either have a smaller diameter threaded end either external or internal for that.

 

Pictures of the screw (bolt) and close up outside and inside diameter might help narrow it down. Likely a specific vehicle brand, special service tool. I'm still leaning toward transmission, drive train or suspension though vs A/C

 

Olve the 3/8" drive S-K set. The box is exactly like the first socket set I owned. Bought it over 50 years ago. Still have it all. In fact all my 3/8" & 1/2" drive ratchets are S-K except for some specialty ratchets. They were my daily users for over 20 years...only had to rebuild one of the 3/8" 1x. Bought it all from the Mac Tool rep back then.

[steven newman]

Round puller is threaded

 

Owatonna Tool Co.   No. 400-4

 

Big socket in the bucket is a 3/4" drive.

[Grandpadave52]

1 hour ago, steven newman said:

Round puller is threaded

 

Owatonna Tool Co.   No. 400-4

Threaded inside, outside or both?

 

Still I think it either a seal remover or installer. 400-4 Could have been the OTC Tool number or perhaps Ford or other dealer service tool number made by OTC for the manufacturer. John Deere used OTC almost exclusively for special service tools as did IH, Ford and others. GM used both OTC & Kent-Moore. Deere dealer numbers almost always was preceded by JD, then (E) if used on engines, (H) if used for hydraulics, (F) for fuel, (T) transmissions and so on; ex JDH-123. OTC brand label or logo sometimes also was stamped it, sometimes not.

 

I did find this posting. The 400-4 may have been part of this tool set for a specific application remove/install. Yours is likely from the 1960's-1970's.

[steven newman]

Threaded on the outside only.   Inside there is a "plunger" like device. 

 

Hmmmm. Ran the bolt all the way out.   Just a very long bolt,,,end has a stretch where the threads were removed, and the end is cone shaped.   There is a spring that fits over the end of the bolt.

 

Also....this is not a "bolt"....it is a threaded shaft, with a nut on the end.   Nut has been "peened" into place where it will stay.   You can even see where the threads enter the nut.  Spring almost threads onto the bolt.

[Grandpadave52]

23 hours ago, steven newman said:

Threaded on the outside only.   Inside there is a "plunger" like device. 

 

Hmmmm. Ran the bolt all the way out.   Just a very long bolt,,,end has a stretch where the threads were removed, and the end is cone shaped.   There is a spring that fits over the end of the bolt.

 

Also....this is not a "bolt"....it is a threaded shaft, with a nut on the end.   Nut has been "peened" into place where it will stay.   You can even see where the threads enter the nut.  Spring almost threads onto the bolt.

Ya' got me...still guessing it had something to do with an automotive seal or bushing remover/installer/positioner...Wish I had saved some of my old OTC catalogs...might have been able to match the number; nothing close in any of their current catalogs  It does bear some resemblance to an air conditioner compressor (either York or Tecumseh) clutch removal/ installer tools, but none that I had or used had a spring or plunger.

[Grandpadave52]

Ok, not that I doubt you on the arbor diameter of this saw, nor was I out to prove you wrong, but it just totally perplexed me that/why Craftsman would deviate from the industry standard (5/8") on one model of saw particularly a table saw. I do have a couple of saws with 1/2" (actually 12 mm) arbors but both are battery powered, 5-1/2" circular saws; one a Craftsman 19. V and the other a Ryobi 18V. Neither are probably over 10-12 years old if that. Anyways, I digress...

 

Craftsman made this saw IIRC late 80's through mid 90's. They sold lots of them. The most common model being 113.221620 (slight variations of this determined if it came with a stand; with or w/o extensions and other accessories...e.g. dado stack/insert etc.). All the checks & cross checks on any of Sears sites, eReplacement, etc. provide for a blade number, but no description or picture of the blade. I even was able to download a PDF Operators manual for this model, but no description or spec that I found gave the blade arbor diameter. So I kept searching...did not expect to find any information HERE 

Saw looks identical to yours except w/o OEM stand.

>>MACHINE<<
Sears Craftsman 8" direct drive bench saw.
7.8A 3450rpm motor with 5/8" arbor.
Aluminum top & extensions. Stamped steel base.

 

 

Anyways, if it is a 1/2" arbor the arbor nut would be 1/2" dia. threads; just another way to verify...If that still is the case, I found THESE...knew I had a couple of sets that I bought at H-F (they no longer carry) but this is identical to the sets I bought...

 

Sorry I couldn't let this discrepancy go...I was just trying to validate for myself and determine the reason. I would have done the same research if it was mine.