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Delta 1160 10" Ball-Bearing Circular Saw (Tilt Top Table Saw) Restoration ( Or The Rescue of Old Tilty)

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It's nice to know it's not lost but how do I get it to where it should have been?



Do I need to delete it and remake it or can I move it somehow to the correct forum?



Thanks for your help


Randy

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Randy,


The upper blade guard was an accessory, and did not come with the saws. As far as lubrication, the use of parafin wax rubbed onto the surfaces will attract less sawdust.


 


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  • 11 months later...

Hi Larry,


I have a Delta 1160 table that my Dad bought with his furlough money from service in the mid 40's.  The saw was used in his cabinet shop until he gave it to me in the early 70's.  I'm still using the saw, the only thing I have done over the years is replace the motor twice.  My unit is unique in that a Delta 6" jointer is attached to the left side of the saw base and is run off the same motor so when you start the saw the jointer runs also.  This is a great saw, very strong and accurate, not like the junk that is available today.  Have you completed your project yet?


Jerry


 

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Hi Gerald,


I have both stands for this table saw, the single and combo stands. I'll probably stick with the combo stand, as the single stands are rather tippy.


I've had a few setbacks that have put me way behind on getting things done.


The jointer that I have is a 1955 37-220 long bed. I picked it up several years ago for basically a scrap price ($40 or $45.00). It had been tipped over by a previous owner and the bed adjustment handles and shafts were broken off.


I've since gotten replacements, but will more than likely continue using the ball-crank handles that I put on it when I repaired the original shafts. They make the jointer look more like it's from the same time period as the table saw.


I've managed over the years to find almost all of the accessories that were available for the table saw. Some of them are getting rather rare, and hard to find. I'm still on the hunt for a few items that continue to elude me, but I'm sure they'll eventually turn up.


I'm now waiting for the weather to improve so I can get back to work at getting things done. I do my painting outdoors and temps in the mid 20's don't work well for me, or the paint.


I did get the artwork recreated for making a decal to restore the badge on mine done. It was in bad shape, and barely readable. Here is the artwork, I worked from a photo that I found online.


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Larry


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Randy, I have your cover and am awaiting your email.


Dan Coleman

The small foot print and sturdy constuction are good reasons to revive these old saws to us as a second saw for a small sled or dado set.  You can alwasys add a wider base to make them more stable.  I still have some parts from the two I parted out.


Dan Coleman

Wow what a lovely old girl tilly is,have reached the age where I lust after old tools more than i do women(well almost) I fell bad on the other sites when someone says they are getting rid of granpas old delta or craftsman etc. and buying a nice new something or other made in chna or taiwan or india im too old to love direct drive or anthinng digital and my dust collection system is a broom.I hope you guys are the ones who are buying up all these great old tools

That was funny Tim, great post. Our machinery guys and more are buying up the old ones, and restoring them to keep them around for another 100 years, their restorations are incredible. Better then new most of the time! Dust collection is a broom! Nice!!! Just like my Dad, heck half the time he leave the shavings on the floor for months, they have to be ankle deep before he sweeps up!

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Wow what a lovely old girl tilly is,have reached the age where I lust after old tools more than i do women(well almost) I fell bad on the other sites when someone says they are getting rid of granpas old delta or craftsman etc. and buying a nice new something or other made in chna or taiwan or india im too old to love direct drive or anthinng digital and my dust collection system is a broom.I hope you guys are the ones who are buying up all these great old tools






John Morris
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Hi Tim,


First off, welcome to The Patriot Woodworker.


For me it amounts to economics, as well as simply liking the quality of the old machines. ( No Plastic )


I'm whats referred to as a "bottom feeder" in that I can't afford the prices of new or restored equipment.


So I normally start with a machine that most people would consider either a parts machine, or worse. (Scrap)


Most of my machine rebuilds fall into the catagory of Resto-Mods, in that I will use parts from later model machines to get them going. Sometimes it adds additional features that the machine originally didn't have. Most times it is done to replace missing or damaged parts that I simply haven't found. 


In the case of this old tilty, it will be considered a Resto-Mod because of my paint color choices. This saw is a collection of parts aquired over a period of 10+ years. The accessories are the items that take the most time to aquire, but I have found most of them.


These "old machines" are actually a hobby within a hobby for me that has resulted in yet another hobby, the recreation of decals for the machines.


There's just something about these old belt drives that draws one to them.


Most of my machines are being set up as combination units to save space, and share motors.


 


Larry


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tim howald said:


Wow what a lovely old girl tilly is,have reached the age where I lust after old tools more than i do women(well almost) I fell bad on the other sites when someone says they are getting rid of granpas old delta or craftsman etc. and buying a nice new something or other made in chna or taiwan or india im too old to love direct drive or anthinng digital and my dust collection system is a broom.I hope you guys are the ones who are buying up all these great old tools



Thanks for the welcome guys I feel great knowing other guys out there have rust flowing in their viens(it adds iron) ihave a few old tool children I have adopted ,inherited ,or bought at garage sales. ive found  that I dont know how long my old tools will last because some of them were old when I got em 35 or so years ago and they havent quit yet.Newer tools  Ive bought seem to have much shorter lifespans. I love belt drive tools and buy every garage sale motor I see if its cheap.(im a combination of frugal and poor)also im very inexperienced at computers and typing(iwould have a 50 year old belt drive computer if there had been one.IM gonna try to find out about cameras and posting picture soon i hope, my cell phone runs on kerosine and doesent have a camera on board

Welcome again Tim, great to have you and your fabulous sense of humor, cheers!

tim howald said:


Thanks for the welcome guys I feel great knowing other guys out there have rust flowing in their viens(it adds iron) ihave a few old tool children I have adopted ,inherited ,or bought at garage sales. ive found  that I dont know how long my old tools will last because some of them were old when I got em 35 or so years ago and they havent quit yet.Newer tools  Ive bought seem to have much shorter lifespans. I love belt drive tools and buy every garage sale motor I see if its cheap.(im a combination of frugal and poor)also im very inexperienced at computers and typing(iwould have a 50 year old belt drive computer if there had been one.IM gonna try to find out about cameras and posting picture soon i hope, my cell phone runs on kerosine and doesent have a camera on board






John Morris
The Patriot Woodworker
Proud Supporter of Homes For Our Troops and Wounded Warriors Project

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Tim,


So that's why I get so stiff. Rust in my veins, joints, etc.


Silly me, I thought it was because I'm getting old.


 


Larry


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tim howald said:


Thanks for the welcome guys I feel great knowing other guys out there have rust flowing in their viens(it adds iron) ihave a few old tool children I have adopted ,inherited ,or bought at garage sales. ive found  that I dont know how long my old tools will last because some of them were old when I got em 35 or so years ago and they havent quit yet.Newer tools  Ive bought seem to have much shorter lifespans. I love belt drive tools and buy every garage sale motor I see if its cheap.(im a combination of frugal and poor)also im very inexperienced at computers and typing(iwould have a 50 year old belt drive computer if there had been one.IM gonna try to find out about cameras and posting picture soon i hope, my cell phone runs on kerosine and doesent have a camera on board



I wonder if radiator stop rust would help us?




Harry Brink
Bulldog Woodworking
Montana

Harry and Larry both tinker   


with machinery of past gemerations


and by breathing in rust


and assorted old dust


they include it in their circulations! ---    me too          

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Harry,


I don't know about the rust inhibitor.


But we're getting old enough that we'll probably soon need stop leak.


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Harry Brink said:


I wonder if radiator stop rust would help us?




Harry Brink
Bulldog Woodworking
Montana



  • 6 months later...

Hello,


 


This looks like such a nice site, I bought the company...I mean, I joined...Hi everyone.  I just bought one of these old 1160s, disassembled, and I am just about to put it together.  Thank you profusely for the pictures, great, great, great.  I fell in love with the old tilt tops after buying an Allatt Tilt Top.  Seems like I have the only Allatt Tilt Top known to exist.  Rarity does not always = value.  Desirability drives value.  I stuck in the link to the old Allatt saw just to show it to yous guys.  Without the old Allatt though, I'm sure I would have never been turned onto the old Delta (the Cadillac of Tilt Tops) 1160. 


Barry Crowe


 


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Hi Barry,


The Allatt brand is a new one on me, but we don't see many Beavers this side of the border either. :(


I myself prefer the tiltys, maybe because I'm a bit tilted myself.;)


 


Larry


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I darn near bought a Beaver a couple of days ago but didn't. That's good because I found what I really need, a 220 volt industrial cabinet saw (A King Industrial). Not a Unisaw, but its cherry and was $ 250 and in storage for the past 10 years. My business is growing and I really need to upgrade my tools. Next is a dust collector and then a bigger planer. I would say the Allatt is every bit as solid as a 1160, but not as pretty.

Larry, did you get yours finished? I couldn't remember.




John Moody
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John Moody Woodworks
http://www.johnmoodywoodworks.com

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