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I had a good time endlessly wandering around the floor @ IWF. 3 of us went. One to look at software and all of us to look at banders and routers. In between I looked at lots of other interesting stuff. They estimated attendance at about 30,000. Lots of Chinese stuff, some looking better than before. For routers we kind of agreed on 3 (4) brands. For our level of work that meant a price tag of $125K to 200+. By the time a few bells and whistles were added another 20-30K. When we upgrade it will have a push off and clean feature, 18 drills, 12+ tool changer, & a C-axis. Maybe auto load &