Scrap spruce into a scrappy tray

[Woodman]

Springtime curb foraging will soon be upon us. For now, I have a small pile of [red?] spruce scraps. Another project, a small tray for wallet keys pocket stuff. Or as likely, for my buddy's bookstore, where he'll do something more creative with it.

 

Carefully reviewing my choices with a Top Advisor ...

 

 

Experimenting with cutting this recessed ledge. Is it a mortise, or does that require three sides?

 

 

 

 

Done with that. Time for a better bench and saw!

 

 

Custom border of saved panel edges. Action shot! Going full brass on the clamps with 3/4" pipe and Hatagane.

 

 

Oops, my advisor missed an uneven mortise.  Filler of sifted spruce powder, Titebond, and a splash of branch water.  Mmmmm!

 

 

 

Violin varnish - spirit varnish - diluted with something close to 195 proof hooch.

 

 

Most of the larger shavings came from this back, now sort of flat. Time to sharpen the No. 102 and think about a more stable bench.

 

 

All done!

 

[Grandpadave52]

Nicely done Jim. Enjoy and appreciate all of your hand joinery. As for your "Top Advisor", what's your secret to keeping him/her awake? When ours aren't sleeping they're taking a nap.

[lew]

Fantastic use of scraps! you would have a ball in my shop foraging for materials!!

 

 

Rabbet

 

 

Dado

[John Morris]

 

https://thepatriotwoodwiki.org/Glossary-of-Woodworking-Joints

[Artie]

I don’t have a top advisor, I have a snoopervisor.

[DAB]

rabbit season!

 

Dado season!

[Gerald]

Man I am dizzy just going thru all the pics, great job

[Woodman]

3 hours ago, John Morris said:

 

 

Thanks! I thought I read that part but it didn't sink in! I've been looking at both a rabbit and shoulder plane. But first, a new saw for what GrandpaDave politely calls my "hand joinery" efforts. It sure feels solid, though.

 

14 minutes ago, Gerald said:

Man I am dizzy

Imagine how I feel! 

 

The seller with the Stanley wants $50 for both. I bought my Hatagane clamps from him, $50 for nine. Seems everything he sells is $50 ...

 

 

Edited February 16, 2022 by Dovetail
Oops. Add images.

[Grandpadave52]

6 minutes ago, Dovetail said:

The seller with the Stanley wants $50 for both. I bought my Hatagane clamps from him, $50 for nine. Seems everything he sells is $50 ...

From the picture Jim of the two rabbiting planes, the top one does appear to be a Stanley no. 78. Unless he has additional pics, it is incomplete. Does not have the iron (blade) nor the blade cap (hold down). Also no signs of a depth stop or fence. While most of that is available off eBay, can get pretty pricey.

 

The bottom plane appears to be a Craftsman "#79"...actually a Sargent #79 made for Craftsman. Similar in design to the Stanley and made for same purpose. From the best I can tell expanding the picture, the iron appears to have the "oval Craftsman" trademark. I do see at least the fence guide rod and also the thumb screw for the depth stop although can't say if the fence or depth stop are included. 

 

You might refer to these posts from a while back.

 

[Woodman]

Thanks, Dave.  I am passing on the incomplete rabbet planes; the Clifton is too top shelf pricy for me right now. I'm about to invest in a 14" 15 TPI Lynx ...

 

Are the diagonal notches on these posts considered dados? Or, saying this was full-size work bench height or even a porch roof, would you call this 'notched post' construction?

 

The cat? He is stationary for a few minutes after stuffing himself. 

Edited February 16, 2022 by Dovetail
rabbit vs rabbet

[John Morris]

5 hours ago, Dovetail said:

would you call this 'notched post' construction?

 

Man that's a great question @Dovetail, it could be called many things I suppose, it's not often you see this type of joinery in furniture, if at all, unless a creative worker like you does it. Indeed if it was a porch, or a log cabin even, it'd be notched, but using notched in furniture building? Typically this joint would be used in post and beam construction. But what is so cool about woodworking, is that you can do whatever the heck you want, and if the joint has longevity and it's mechanically sound, you can call it whatever you want!.

So here is your moment my friend, to call this joint whatever the heck you want!

[Grandpadave52]

5 hours ago, Dovetail said:

Are the diagonal notches on these posts considered dados? Or, saying this was full-size work bench height or even a porch roof, would you call this 'notched post' construction?

Sorry Jim...was out dealing with storm/root cellar/well pump house sump pump issues; went to the garage for something, ended up staying and puttering around for a few hours since it was 55°. Got the sump pump issue resolved too.

 

As @John Morrisnoted, great question. My first thought was it's still a dado although not perpendicular to the grain, at least in this case. So...did some Googling angle cut dado; there's lots of hits showing, asking, suggesting, etc, it is still considered a dado when used in furniture,, bench making, woodworking, etc.. albeit cut at angle.

 

Consider this, if one wanted slanted shelves in a cabinet, you might cut angled "grooves" to support the shelves. If your shelves and cabinet frame were made from non-grained wood, e.g. plywood, MDF/MDO, regardless of the groove angle (dado), you wouldn't cut across the grain, so I'll stick with my first thought, it is a dado.

 

A rabbit differs as it is a machined relief around the outside edge of a board or panel. Anyways, that's my story and I'm sticking to it until others come along and thrash me with a feather. Hope all this makes some sense? 

 

Glad "Whiskers" enjoyed his lunch

 

Merriam-Webster says...

Definition of dado

 (Entry 1 of 2)

1a: the part of a pedestal of a column above the base

b: the lower part of an interior wall when specially decorated or faced also : the decoration adorning this part of a wall

2: a rectangular groove cut to make a joint in woodworking specifically : one cut across the grain

[Woodman]

Thank you! 

 

I’ve been thinking of adding tiny pegs to similar joints. Drill and insert ebony or stained hardwood. 
 

What I’m making, in those closeup pics, may be a model of an old garden / conservatory potting bench.

 

In ‘02 or so I made a potting bench with all square notches. Topped with granite.  Arizona termites got it; had to be moved last year; I was called to make the decision to put the entire bench down. 
 

Guess I have a strong Lincoln Log influence. Along with Victorian Craftsman tendencies. 
 

 

[Woodman]

9 hours ago, John Morris said:

here is your moment my friend, to call this joint whatever the heck you want!

Study of medieval display carpentry: Diagonal lap joint  

 

From: An Encyclopaedia of English Medieval Carpentry by Robert Beech

 

[Grandpadave52]

Agreed, the joint (intersection of 2 or more pieces) would be considered a lap joint. That said other than the dovetail (which can also be made as a through dovetail) the joint is made by creating either a stopped or full dado. In the 3 examples shown, the lap joints are made with both a dado and a rabbit. JMO, YMMV.

[frenchwwr]

17 hours ago, Dovetail said:

Thanks! I thought I read that part but it didn't sink in! I've been looking at both a rabbit and shoulder plane. But first, a new saw for what GrandpaDave politely calls my "hand joinery" efforts. It sure feels solid, though.

 

Imagine how I feel! 

 

The seller with the Stanley wants $50 for both. I bought my Hatagane clamps from him, $50 for nine. Seems everything he sells is $50 ...