MWTCA June 2020 'What's It' Project (179-4a)

[John Morris]

"What's It" Basic Rules Reminder

 

For a full run down on this project and rules please go to: "The Patriot Woodworker and MWTCA "What's It" project"

• Only Patriot Woodworker Members are eligible to participate and receive the award.
• The MWTCA only accepts a verified source to support your answer, so one should be submitted with your answer, such as a patent, catalog entry, tool book reference, or a respectable website on the subject. Do not let these requirements prevent you from having fun and submitting educated answers on the subject without verification, we can worry about references later. All answers are welcome, as well as healthy debates regarding "What's It".
• If a verified and referenced answer is not arrived at by the end of each month's "What's It" project, a random draw will be performed for a "One Year MWTCA Club Membership".
• Only Patriot Woodworker's who participate in this "What's It" topic will be included in the random draw.

 

Additional What's It Rules

• Unless you are completely sure what this item is, please avoid "definitive statements" that appear that you are without a doubt claiming that you know what the item is. For example stating, "this item is called a "widget xx" used for "insert purpose here". If you are making a definitive statement you must accompany your statement with evidence or proof from a secondary source.
• An example of acceptable statements within the realm of having fun and educated guesses would be something like this, "I believe it could be", or "It appears it's made for this or that", etc etc etc...

 

Ok ladies and gentlemen, we now have our "What's it" live and ready!

The image(s) below is a MWTCA "What's It" image for you to research, and tell us all here in this topic post, just what the heck is it!

 

Project Details

The information provided hereon is all the information that is provided, no further information on this item will be added.

 

Text on them says “Mfd for H F LIVERMORE, Pearl St, Boston, Mass”

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Gene Howe]

It's an ancient Egyptian pair of buckles for a belt to strap down live candidates prior to mumification.

Edited June 7, 2020 by Gene Howe

[Ron Dudelston]

I did a little checking up on H.F. Livermore.  Homer F. Livermore was born in 1864 and died in 1941 and the 1820 Census has his occupation listed as Metal Sales Agent.  This ad was one of many published in the early 20's and all dealt with metal tubing and such.   This picture looks like a fixture to go on a belt (leather strap is missing).  Maybe something to easily carry metal goods while they're forming them???

[HandyDan]

Horse tack.  Holds the pole from a horse cart.  In this picture it is right where it says trace or tug.

 

 

 

 

Edited June 7, 2020 by HandyDan

[Gunny]

I am thinking @HandyDan go that one.  

[Ron Dudelston]

Gunny, I think you are correct.

 

[John Morris]

It's not any kind of horse tack I've seen. Pulling a cart with those would really hurt a horse.

This is interesting though. Maybe for a loom?

 

H.F. Livermore Corporation. - Social Networks and Archival Context

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[John Morris]

Hmmm, the closer I look at it now, Dan could be right! I got a question in to an equestrian as we speak, perhaps she'll confirm or deny, or no comment.

[John Morris]

It would be this part right Dan? In lieu of leather, they were thinking iron would be a great idea.

 

[HandyDan]

2 minutes ago, John Morris said:

It would be this part right Dan? In lieu of leather, they were thinking iron would be a great idea.

That is my thought.  Seen it called mud catcher too.

[Gene Howe]

That confirms it. Dan has good horse sense.

Edited June 7, 2020 by Gene Howe

[HandyDan]

There are images of poles down the side of the horse and maybe the metal ones were used as a slide link for these.

 

      

[HandyDan]

    

[Gunny]

58 minutes ago, John Morris said:

This is interesting though. Maybe for a loom?

Well my SWAG was a BDSM device from early 1940's   

[Ron Dudelston]

I wonder...... If these are tack, are they from his personal livery?  Is so, what a family heirloom.

[FlGatorwood]

Having been raised on the farm with cows, horses, mules, pigs/hogs and chickens, I have to go with Dan on this one.  Atta boy, Dan.  

[John Morris]

Now, Dan just needs to provide a reference!

[Gunny]

4 minutes ago, John Morris said:

Dan just needs to provide a reference!

I vouch for Dad, a stand up guy.  

[Gerald]

Got here late but at first look I said harness buckle. Most I have seen are leather but I think Dan is onto this . Also from the size I would say it is fro a draft or heavy working harness so @HandyDan you might want to look at those old catalogs.

[HandyDan]

16 hours ago, John Morris said:

Now, Dan just needs to provide a reference!

Working on it.