August 4, 20196 yr Popular Post Well, Stopped at ONE garage sale.....Spent a bit over $15...Picked a pair of straight jaw Visegrips, and a "modern" Yankee drill... That had 3 drill points. That was the $0.50 of the $15.50.....and I almost drove off without these two..why? A COMPLETE Stanley Mitre Box with it's OEM saw...had to take the saw out, to make things easier to cart around... So....in order to do a rehab on this new "toy", one item needs addressed... need to put away all of this mess....including those freshly cleaned up bits.. other end of the bench was worse..( board was to test how sharp the saw is....VERY sharp...) Took maybe 10 minutes to go from this mess...to... I think I can live with this... That Disston saw... And, when I cleaned the spine up, there was another Disston & Sons stamp. Took the Brass out, and shined them up. Saw is 26" long, not counting the handle..and WAS 4" under the spine ( now about 3-1/2"..) which makes the Mitre Box it goes to a #246, or a #346 model. IF you look at the bottom of the guide rods, instead of a square block, there is a split cylinder. Both stock rests and both stock holders are there...was missing depth stop back here ( had one in me spares box) Afraid to look under the top deck, and see what sort of shape the main deck is in...No name plate showing Model number.. But there are 4 patent dates, all from 1904...There was one item to replace.. An old break..and I had a replacement in the spares box...Decided to soak the moving parts in PBblaster, since none were moving....got rid of the plywood deck... Well, well, lookee what I found. Those stock rests ( for doing crown molding) These are OEM, OLD ones..they have a small button to keep them from being pulled out too far ( and lost) But, if you take the rest and that thumbscrew and holder around front... That same thumbscrew threads into the metal disc in the deck...and you have a length stop for repeat cuts...Shook up the can of PB..and gave things a soaking... Swing arm did not want to...swing...let this soak for about an hour, gave it another try...was able to move it nicely enough...details? One, in addition to the numbers on top of the quadrant, that show the number of cuts for a given box ( 4 = 4 sides = 4 cuts= 45 degrees) there is a scale along the front edge.. These are degrees. There are detent holes under all of this, to lock the saw in place for the cuts... Still evicting spiders...That HUGE slotted "bolt"? is not a bolt..notice that little hole in the slot? There is a tapered pin in there, when you install the guide rods into the arm, you tight a bolt at the end of this pin. It spreads the slot, and holds the guide rod assembly in place. You can also see the detents the swing arm locks into..other end of the swing arm turns on a "King bolt"... Which I may need to remove, to clean and repaint everything that needs painted.. Intent is to make this Mitre Box & Saw look like the day Mr. L Millice bought it...Saw has been cleaned up....box has been taken down to the bench....need a bowl to toss cleaned up parts in, and a new 6" brass wire wheel for my grinder....and a 3/8" thick plank of Poplar, 6" x 24" Project wood. old wheel sheds worse than a sheep dog in August... Stay tuned...
August 4, 20196 yr You are up & posting stuff mighty early today Steven. Great find, and the start of a great rehab tutorial I predict...
August 4, 20196 yr Another tool rescued from the junk yard. Good on ya, Steve. How many miter saws does that one make, now?
August 5, 20196 yr Popular Post 7 hours ago, Gene Howe said: How many miter saws does that one make, now? A museum full!!
August 5, 20196 yr Author Popular Post ok...new wheel has been bought, and a bit of Poplar Old wheel? About worn out? PITA to change out, too.. And just start taking things apart, run them through the wheel for a bit...lay them back where the belong.. Worked mainly on the front set of parts....note the base of the guide rods? It uses a special pin.. Tapered, when it is tightened in, it spreads the slot in the base, and lock it in place... These two are the guides. Saw slides through these. There is a thin metal plate at the top, helps keep the two lined up with each other, and provides a place for the catch to grab onto So, when you raise the saw all the way up, these catches will hold the saw in the air... Like the #358 Mitre Box back there. A device that sits on the saw, would trip the front catch, saw tilts down, and the back end then trips the back catch...spring at the bottom of the guide rod act to absorb the shock of the saw dropping...Boing... Not only did the owner stamp his name on the saw handle (3 times!) he also stamped both faces of the cross bar... I also got the back guide apart, cleaned up, and reassembled, for now..easier to keep track of little bolts..BTW, the catches had a newer patent date stamped on them...10-5-09... Stashed the two cleaned up guide assemblies and the crossbar aside.. with the replacement parts, too. Had a disc to dig out of the deck...TINY wood screws! Doubt IF Lowes has any replacements...I also cleaned the stock holders.. Points come in from the back, points to keep a piece of wood from sliding away.. But, most of the small stuff went into the parts tub.. Feet,,underneath the black gunk, there is rusty gunk...also shined all the bolts ( had two go airbourne from the grinder) 8 tiny wood screws held the deck in place...remove those, and the deck.. hmm...deck may have been there a LONG time? 2 VERY SMALL bolts hold the degree indicator strip in place,,,took a bit to get them to budge.... King bolt still not budging...let it soak overnight....and find a Drag-link and try again. There are 2 places to set the front guide into...this one isn't "reamed" out smooth enough,, end won't go any farther.... No such trouble on this one....May polish the opening of the front one, and see IF it will fit... When I refurb this #358 box, I made new stock rests from scratch...compare to what Stanley made....slight differences? Old deck will serve as a pattern for the new deck. Right down to the disc, and the two dados. Stay tuned...will see IF I can get that PITA bolt to budge...clean things of rust and grime, and then some rattle can paint? Nickel plating is flaking off...will take it back to bare metal, and see what happens Stay tuned BTW: about 1/2 of that trash can of cut-offs and scraps, and shavings...took the place of a bag of charcoal...Burgers and Bratts on the grill for Supper...Knee gets rehab tomorrow morning...
August 5, 20196 yr Author Popular Post Just checked on the soaking this morning...gave it another soaking....hammer drill couldn't make it budge...let it soak in a while... This evening, tried again..nada. flipped the frame over, found the top of that bolt...and soaked that end down...letting it sit til tomorrow, this being a Monday, after all.. Therapy on the knee today....too sore to move...even took an afternoon NAP Will rest up today....and see what Tuesday brings in with the wind. Stay tuned...
August 6, 20196 yr Popular Post 17 minutes ago, steven newman said: see what Tuesday brings in with the wind. I'm not so sure I want to know. I've had things that PB Blaster wouldn't loosen but "Break Away" by Cyclo would. It's about half the price of PB Blaster at NAPA.
August 6, 20196 yr Author Popular Post Clean & Paint... Clean & paint.. Clean... And then paint some more...King bolt came out this morning.. Seems it was hiding the frame number...Metal parts cleaned up painted where needed, time to work on the deck.. Used the old deck to find the right sized bit...and traced out the new deck...got that cut on the bandsaw,,,needed planes Jointed a few edges... back where it sits in the corner, it needs a bevel... Deck needed flattened, just a tad...drill a couple holes, saw a couple dados.. Them's some tiny screws....Then flip this over, and install 8 more screws.. Had to start a hole for each screw...Yankee to drive them home...While this is sitting here.. casting number?...got the swing arm installed. . Including the cleaned up keeper. Flip the frame over, and install the guide assemblies, and the crossbar....then found out I had one small plate in bass ackwards...The one that hold the saw up in the back.. Deck got 2 coats of stain, then two coats of Amber Shellac...dados work.. As does the length stop.. Numbers shined up. So, now I have a Stanley #358, and this Stanley #346... Hmmm, may need to build a bigger "Saw Bench"?.....I am bushed, was a busy day.... King bolt: after soaking it in PBblaster 3 times, I flipped it over, and soaked it on the threads....later, I came back...didn't budge? Fed up I took the riveting hammer, and whacked the head of the bolt...hard! Had to drive the tip of the big screwdriver into the slot....and with an assist from a big pair of visegrips....Uuuummpf..Crack!bolt was loose! No damage done...wire wheel and into the parts tub, until needed...where there is a will, there is always a way.. Saw had already been done...and, it is very sharp. May have been worth the $15?
August 7, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, steven newman said: May have been worth the $15? Priceless now!! Now I have this saw I really could use refurbed.... Steven Newman style...
August 7, 20196 yr Popular Post Thank you for this journey. I am going to Goodwill and Habitat for Humanity to find one of those. Since, I started waxing everything on my Shopsmith, I now wax almost all my tools, especially, any parts that move. Keeps the rust down and keeps it moving easy.
August 7, 20196 yr Thank you for the ride-a-long Steven. Very informative, and great results. Now... you need a project that will put this bad boy to work!
August 7, 20196 yr Author The Stanley No.346 is now in it's new home.... sitting back there...mitre saw to it's front, is the Langdon 75.... Old lathe bench...now the home of the saw til...has become a catch-all... Needs cleared off..saw til turned 90 degree, and moved down to this end.....Other end can hold the Stanley No. 358...may have to lay a new, wider top on the old one...other "half" of a 4x8 sheet of 3/4 plywood will get used for shelves down below...And I can store the other 2 mitre boxes down there...along with any other extra tools... We'll see how that goes....
August 29, 20196 yr A question of curiosity: How did you remove the rust and keep the lettering on the blade? I have 2 old saws that have Diston? on a button screw in the handle, but the finishing saw has some stamping in the blade. I don't want to remove it. I was thinking of using Naval jelly. I have buffing wheels that will take it down very quickly, but then I may obliterate the stamping. Thanks for considering this for me.
August 30, 20196 yr Author Cold Gun Blue Paste....to bring out the etch. Usually just sandpaper....220 grit, in a palm sander, light touch.
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