2 hours ago, Stick486 said:

that's the idea...

I guess I meant the distance ratings don't help me as much as the output ratings. I saw one that was rated 5 miles with an output of .7 joules...another with the same distance rating had the output of 1 joule. I'm thinking the higher output is more pertinent to what I want (dead coons).

My former neighbor was sort of a cat lady of birds, squirrels, chipmunks, and other wildlife.   She'd take a 5 gal bucket of bread across the street every day to feed the deer, drove to GA to buy 700 lb of pecans, filled her seven or so feeders about 3x a day, including at dusk, etc. etc.   Of course she attracted the raccoons, too.  I am so happy to be away from that madness.  I finally cut down my peach trees because they started raiding them about 1 months before ripeness and they were all gone about a week before.

1 hour ago, kmealy said:

 I finally cut down my peach trees because they started raiding them about 1 months before ripeness and they were all gone about a week before.

Interesting you mentioned the peaches. We have 3 trees that produce piles of peaches and the coons haven't touched them, at least as far as I can tell. Maybe it's because those trees are sort of on the side of the house next to the shop....instead of the back yard.

Its funny to watch the coons and the foxes when the peaches are ripe. The coons climb the tree, the foxes stay on the ground . The coons eats while climbing all over the tree and knocks a few peaches to the ground while the foxes stand there and eats. Then here comes a skunk and runs both the foxes and coons away. The stray cats that we feed to keep the mice and rats away will challenge all of them except the skunk.

   The only time we ever see a fox in the day time is when the momma is feeding her young then twice a day  she shows up for the dry cat food.

A friend of mine used to be navy and he had a nice capacitor charged rat "sploder" he used over in the Phillipines; you probably don't want that if you have kids or animals around you want.   My neighbor gets lots of coons who think his back porch is the neighborhood toilet; he puts some stuff out for them to snack on and most don't make it 5' before they're dead...again; something you probably don't want if there are kids or pets or critters you don't want dying.   a .22 with subsonics will take out just about any size raccoon/rat and not wake the whole neighborhood.

Edited August 21, 20178 yr by p_toad

the porch thing...

shallow kerfed ply for the ''hot'' leg...

alternated rows of bare wire...

the kerf wires are hot and the surface mounted neutral bare wires are between kerfs...

this lets the critter walk on the grid w/o issue...

they are fine until it decides to take a leak...

doesn't kill them but they are never seen again...

 

8 hours ago, Fred W. Hargis Jr said:

guess I meant the distance ratings don't help me as much as the output ratings.

 

more distance equals maintained output under adverse conditions.. think in voltage drops and heavier extension cords...

the voltage (joules) output is fine until the ''tool'' is turned on... i8f the initial bite of the fence quickly drops off after initialization what good is it doing...

or one critter takes the hit and the rest of them get a free pass...

to save the fruit trees build an electrified lattice around the tree a bit away from it...

for the fence to work the critter needs to complete a circuit between the fence wire and the ground...

Edited August 21, 20178 yr by Stick486

On ‎8‎/‎21‎/‎2017 at 6:12 AM, HandyDan said:

 

 

Here in Ohio the raccoons are known to have rabies.  In the spring food baits are dropped from planes and thrown out car windows to try and inoculate the raccoons for the rabies.  Don't see reports of finding a rabid raccoon to often lately but years ago it was epidemic. 

They may have the signs of rabies, but Coons are a carrier of it

13 minutes ago, Chips N Dust said:

They may have the signs of rabies, but Coons are a carrier of it

 

Not so much now but a few years ago the were finding a couple a week roaming around sick with rabies during the day.  The police would be called and they would shoot them where possible.  Seems the inoculation program is working.

16 hours ago, p_toad said:

A friend of mine used to be navy and he had a nice capacitor charged rat "sploder" he used over in the Phillipines; you probably don't want that if you have kids or animals around you want.   My neighbor gets lots of coons who think his back porch is the neighborhood toilet; he puts some stuff out for them to snack on and most don't make it 5' before they're dead...again; something you probably don't want if there are kids or pets or critters you don't want dying.   a .22 with subsonics will take out just about any size raccoon/rat and not wake the whole neighborhood.

 

A dose of high velocity lead poisoning?

 

Maybe we could reuse those fractal burners on the coons?

4 minutes ago, kmealy said:

Maybe we could reuse those fractal burners on the coons?

Do coons even HAVE fractals?

John

6 hours ago, kmealy said:

A dose of high velocity lead poisoning?

Actually, pretty low velocity which is why they're subsonic.   I like them for quietly  dispatching certain vermin and not waking up the whole neighborhood (even out in the country) at night.

One year, long ago....we had a racoon  that would come around every evening....won't say where we were, or how a couple LIVE .223 rounds  got used.....but the racoon was history...turned out she was also nursing......we even tied the trash bags up in the trees....she would untie it, and drop it to the ground.    Actually, there were Black Bears also in that area....watched one youngster amble down a road....following the breakfast mess deuce around.....an M16 blank round would just tick it off.....223 would give him a very good "hint" he wasn't welcome.....

 

As for that racoon...we would have gotten away with it scott free, until the dumb RTO tied it to the jeep's radio ant.   Oooops.  "Hey, it was Road Kill..."

on that note.....I came back up out of the shop tonight,,,had just sat down with a cold Gatorade....all "H" breaks loose outside.   Maxwell the Wonder Pup had "treed" a racoon....racoon had climbed up the side of a window, but couldn't get over the eaves to the roof.....finally knocked the furball OFF the side of my house...and the fight was on!   maxwell is 1/2 BostonTerrier and the rest is Blue heeler.....aka Coon Dog!  

 

Finally got the two to break it up..Rory Racoon was a gray blur, Maxwell giving chase until they reached the fence.....Rory got away...doubt IF he will be back.

 

Maxwell?   Not so much as a scratch.....the boy knows his stuff!   He's fought a Groundhog and now a racoon, and won both of them..

 

 

Groundhogs are tough in their own right, Max sounds like one tough dog. There's little doubt in my mind that an outdoor dog that stays in my yard would be the best preventative....just a little more than I want to deal with. We do have a puppy inside, but it's not a breed that could take on a coon (or even a hamster). I have some 22 rimfire rounds called CB caps, very low speed-small bullet rounds I use for quietly dispatching things....and they will kill a coon.

No coons around here but, we are plagued with prairie dogs. Over the last few months I'll bet there's been 50 holes appear. So far, they have confined their digging to one 5 acre area. We've tried several solutions, with marginal effect. Lately, I've been preparing paper pill cups with a tsp of cyanide pellets and a dab of peanut butter and placing them as far into their burrows as I can reach. Then, cover the entry with the dirt they pile up. At first, we needed around 25 treatments each morning. Now, we're down to one or two. I do believe we're getting a handle on the problem. 

This may not be the safest method for raccoons as the poison would need to be above ground. But, if you can keep other animals out of the area, cyanide is effective. Maybe place the poisoned PB on a pole???

10 hours ago, Gene Howe said:

Maybe place the poisoned PB on a pole

And have a nice sharp tip on the pole and then stick the pole into the critter.   Yeah, i know it sounds like a pike. 

12 hours ago, Fred W. Hargis Jr said:

Groundhogs are tough in their own right, Max sounds like one tough dog. There's little doubt in my mind that an outdoor dog that stays in my yard would be the best preventative....just a little more than I want to deal with. We do have a puppy inside, but it's not a breed that could take on a coon (or even a hamster). I have some 22 rimfire rounds called CB caps, very low speed-small bullet rounds I use for quietly dispatching things....and they will kill a coon.

I use the CB caps for ground squirrels since I live in town. I am sure this has been mentioned, but a couple of live traps (keeps the "good" critters safe) and then dispatch the coons once they are in the traps.