I just caught the first episode of Rough Cut where I've seen his new tool layout on the bottom floor of his new shop. The shop itself is really (really) nice, but the tools he has are spectacular. All SCM group stuff (Mini-Max) and he got what looks to be $100K worth of their stuff in there. Sliding combo table saw (mortiser, shaper, and jointer), a separate 16" jointer, what looked to be a 40" or so belt sander, a lathe, and an awesome planer that motorized table adjustments. He did (almost) apologize for the extravagant set up, promising the jobs could be done with smaller machines. I have to admit, I lost a little enthusiasm for hs show when I saw the stuff. Then he went upstairs (apparently his hand tools shop) and laying on one bench was all kinds of LN boxes, he previously used Woodriver planes and stuff.  His tooling has always been changing somewhat with his sponsors, and now he has SCM as one. Woodcraft is still there as well.

Edited December 6, 20178 yr by Ron Dudelston
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I think I saw that episode Saturday morning here. In fact, I said to my wife, shows like this one have so little to do with most woodworkers. It's sad but most "how to" and "reality" shows have gone this route. Not just woodworking but all of them. Wife was watching a cooking show and the lady was cooking three whole beef tenderloins for a family gathering. Have you priced a beef tenderloin lately?

 

 

Steve

Edited April 2, 20179 yr by Steve Krumanaker
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I stopped watching woodworking shows years ago, even Norm A. ,he had every tool known to man and a crew behind the scenes doing all the work. Nothing to it, the machines are all set up ,just grab a piece of wood and run it through then walk over and show a finished piece of furniture.

But then, I hate reality shows anyway, They are all scripted, and rely on controversy to make a story.

Come right down to it I rarely watch TV, a ballgame once in awhile is all.

Herb

I do not watch "reality" tv either - it is all a bunch of lies. What is that show where they redo or build a house for someone in a week? Anyways, they came to Medford several years ago and did one. When they knock on the door with the "Surprise! We picked you!" they had to do 4 takes to get everyone's expression the way they wanted it. My grading foremen volunteered for the roadwork and he was talking to the producer who said, "If we take longer than 7 days, we just edit it down so people think we did it in 7 days." ALL LIES! Not one thing "real" about it.

Edited April 2, 20179 yr by Chips N Dust

I can't say what I'd really like to about "reality" shows but they are often on at our house. I will usually put my headphones on and watch wood turning videos or something. Can't tolerate them

 

steve

The only woodworking I watch on TV is on YouTube. 

As for those reality tv shows...never did get into them. Didn't mind that they were contrived, just never found them interesting enough. 

Our local PBS just finished the Rough Cuts shop building episodes. I can't get into "Tommy Mac". 

 

I have to respectfully disagree about "Norm" and a crew building his projects. I read an interview, years ago, he built everything himself. Actually built 2 of everything. One for practice, one for filming.

 

Every now and then I see a nice tip on the Woodsmith Shop.

I quit when Norm went off the air.  I am in the process of ending magazine subscriptions too.

Like it or not, if you want a good video production (no matter what outlet format), it takes a lot of prep, miles of tape...ok, hours of recording, lots of editing.  And special lighting.  When you look at some YouTubes, the amateurs emerge quickly (well, not quickly enough:  they're the ones that seem to think we tuned in to see them talk and talk and talk).  Steve Ramsey did a show on how he does shows:  very interesting.  It don't happen by accident.  Pros make it look easy on screen, but behind that is lots of work.  SR takes a whole week to do a 30-min (+/-) presentation.  It's a job. 

Back to Mac:  I find it interesting that we see lots of Festool green, but they block out the name.  Someone didn't renew a sponsorship?  I watch the Mac shows, but they don't have quite the "learning value" I'd like.  Lots of "footage" ("minute-age"?) of tools cutting, but not much on "here's how".  Of course, what you want is who you are now.  I like the Woodsmith presentations:  I learn a lot.  Woodwright is fun, once you get past the soupy humor (the tooling is fascinating).  Scott Phillips needs more editing and cutting.  I need more practice.  It's not a perfect world.

I celebrate not having TV...

 When I retired in 99, I still woke and ate early breakfast watching the news. It wasn't long before I realized that watching the news was depressing and would start the day wrong. It could put me in a bad mood all day. I quit watching the news and most other TV. My wife likes the HGTV thing and I do watch This old house. Thats about it.  i'm a better person for it too.

 I get my news and info on the internet where I choose what I want to read, not someone's opinion of the news

Edited April 2, 20179 yr by Ron Altier
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22 minutes ago, Ron Altier said:

 I get my news and info on the internet

 

need some eye openers???

 

News from everywhere else....

Wait, what? Are you guys all sayin' all these shows and news are not real?    Please tell me it ain't so...Next you'll be tellin' me Sylvester & Tweety bird are made up...then what? Is there no end to this kind of madness? Thank goodness Championship Wrastlin' is still on once in a while...Now that's real stuff

Wonder what a show about a Dungeon Shop would be like.......

40 minutes ago, Grandpadave52 said:

Please tell me it ain't so...Next you'll be tellin' me Sylvester & Tweety bird are made up...then what? Is there no end to this kind of madness?

 

 

 

 

They're getting old too.

 

Edited April 2, 20179 yr by HandyDan

I quit watching Norm early on.   I found myself yelling at the TV.    A routah for every bit (I had one at the time), every joint "perfect", glue running all over the place, high-end machinery that I could not afford money or space for, power tools for every task, and I think what drove me over the edge was half-blind dovetails on the base molding of a cabinet.  A good carpenter, but not necessarily a good furniture maker at that time.   Don't know if he ever matured or not.

13 minutes ago, kmealy said:

I quit watching Norm early on.   I found myself yelling at the TV.    A routah for every bit (I had one at the time), every joint "perfect", glue running all over the place, high-end machinery that I could not afford money or space for, power tools for every task, and I think what drove me over the edge was half-blind dovetails on the base molding of a cabinet.  A good carpenter, but not necessarily a good furniture maker at that time.   Don't know if he ever matured or not.

Do not forget the nails in every furniture joint.

But I did learn a lot from Norm as no one else was doing that kind of work on TV at the time

3 minutes ago, Gerald said:

Do not forget the nails in every furniture joint.

But I did learn a lot from Norm as no one else was doing that kind of work on TV at the time

Oh, yeah, adding a few brads to hold while the glue dries???

I can't fault Norm. He was the one who got me started in woodworking, and I'm sure a lot of others. I've built a few items from his plans. I think that Tommy Sylva ,while he definitely has top of the line tools, has provided a lot of insight for the DIY'ers. I somehow always figured the brads were to keep the project moving for the video. My wife seems to like the HGTV stuff where someone remodels a home in an hour after using a sledge hammer for the demo. Whatever happened to safety in these shows?

Never watched a carpentry or woodworking show in my life! Had rabbit-ear antenna until about 5 years ago, and couldn't get any of those channels if I wanted to. Sounds like I haven't missed too much.

John