October 5, 20169 yr Have three (that I can find at the moment) dried out and crusty oil stones. I tend to use oil stones when I sharpen things up. There was a discussion about sitting the stones in Vaseline, in a pan. Sitting the pan in a 200 degre oven for an hour. This is supposed to repack the stones so any honing oil won't just disappear into the stones. Hmm, mine are well dried out. But, IF I go "baking " Vaseline in the Boss' oven.......I might get shot. Besides, the Pumpkin Bread would taste a bit.....funny. Found a plastic tub, and some Quaker State 10W40. Dropped the three stones into a layer of the oil. And just let them soak awhile.. Bubbles came right up. Had to go out every hour or so, and flip them over. Have to keep sloshing the oil around, to keep an even coat. Plan is to give them a nice long soak, them towel them off. Them see how they work. All three are coarse grit stones. 3in1 oil would just soak right out of sight, before I could get a bevel on the stone. Goal is to slow THAT down, to where the 3in1 will stay on the surface, long enough to be of use. Will update as things go along. Stay tuned.....
October 5, 20169 yr Careful...that Quaker State will sludge up your stones after 30,000 miles. LOL! When I rebuilt a motor I could always tell that they had used QS in it. Thankfully, they changed the formulation and it no longer does that to a motor. I was always a Kendall GT-1 and Pennzoil fan. I never had an issue with the Pennzoil and the GT-1 (straight weights) I used in my off road VW air cooled motors. My brothers oldest is married to a granddaughter of the QS founder...she looks down on her PA oil field trash relatives. Guess that trust fund make her forget that her mama and grand daddy were oil field trash too.
October 5, 20169 yr 14 minutes ago, schnewj said: Careful...that Quaker State will sludge up your stones after 30,000 miles. LOL! When I rebuilt a motor I could always tell that they had used QS in it. Thankfully, they changed the formulation and it no longer does that to a motor. I was always a Kendall GT-1 and Pennzoil fan. I never had an issue with the Pennzoil and the GT-1 (straight weights) I used in my off road VW air cooled motors. My brothers oldest is married to a granddaughter of the QS founder...she looks down on her PA oil field trash relatives. Guess that trust fund make her forget that her mama and grand daddy were oil field trash too. Same here Bill...it was obvious...I've used Valvoline for 50 years...We did use Shell Rotella on the farm. Steve, something you might consider, I've been experimenting with Automatic Transmission Fluid and seem to have good luck with it (I had a bunch of old Dexron & Type F just sitting). I had been using Air Tool oil (low/no wax or paraffin & no detergents) ,but like you, old or new stones soaked up way too much so it was getting kinda' costly. I've also used non-detergent 10W oil but that's getting harder to find; another alternative is hydraulic oil (for farm or industrial equipment). Just some of my experiment ramblings.
October 5, 20169 yr Author Stones are now out of the bathtub......paper towel to wipe them off. Now sitting in the sun.. Have since taken a clean paper towel out and placed it under the stones. Later, I may need to build a few boxes for these....
October 5, 20169 yr 1 hour ago, Grandpadave52 said: Same here Bill...it was obvious...I've used Valvoline for 50 years...We did use Shell Rotella on the farm. Steve, something you might consider, I've been experimenting with Automatic Transmission Fluid and seem to have good luck with it (I had a bunch of old Dexron & Type F just sitting). I had been using Air Tool oil (low/no wax or paraffin & no detergents) ,but like you, old or new stones soaked up way too much so it was getting kinda' costly. I've also used non-detergent 10W oil but that's getting harder to find; another alternative is hydraulic oil (for farm or industrial equipment). Just some of my experiment ramblings. Valvoline was another really good product and yes, the Shell Rotella always went into the tractor. I don't use many oil stones but now I have a use for all of that old Type F, that, I have setting around the house. The Dextron gets used for gun cleaning solvent (Ed's Red formulation(s)). I still buy that at the local dollar stores when I need it. Edited October 5, 20169 yr by schnewj
October 5, 20169 yr 1 hour ago, schnewj said: Careful...that Quaker State will sludge up your stones after 30,000 miles. LOL! Steven will have to change the oil now every 3,000 strokes on the stones to help prevent that.
October 5, 20169 yr Author Actually, I want the stones to Gunk up inside. Maybe when I put the 3in1 oil on the outside to hone a blade, the 3in1 oil will stay out on top of the stones. Before, that lightweight oil would just soak right in, and UNDER the surface. leaving a dry stone. hard on the ears, all that screeching of steel on dry stone.... MRI next Tuesday, wait another week to see what the Doc says is wrong. Then schedule a day in the hospital to fix things up. SLOWLY get there...
October 5, 20169 yr 3 minutes ago, steven newman said: MRI next Tuesday, wait another week to see what the Doc says is wrong. Then schedule a day in the hospital to fix things up. SLOWLY get there... I hope you get good news from the MRI and the Doc
October 5, 20169 yr I think i still have a quart of that graphite oil out in the garage somewhere (of course, also have the old paper "cans") if you need it.... And no, i'm not a packrat.
October 6, 20169 yr 1 hour ago, p_toad said: I think i still have a quart of that graphite oil out in the garage somewhere (of course, also have the old paper "cans") if you need it.... And no, i'm not a packrat. Right!
October 6, 20169 yr 1 hour ago, p_toad said: I think i still have a quart of that graphite oil out in the garage somewhere (of course, also have the old paper "cans") if you need it.... And no, i'm not a packrat. Well when you decide to tap into one and need the spouts I probably have 3 or 4 laying around...and no I'm not a packrat either!
October 6, 20169 yr Why not use Vaseline and heat gun it into the stone. Just need a coat, doesn't have to soak all the way through. Apply more as needed.
October 6, 20169 yr Author The "Theory" is to bake the vaseline into the insides of the stones, to "seal" them up. That way, the light weight honing oils won't just get sucked down into the stone, never to be seen again. Seems when the stones were made at the factory......a "petroleum-based" product was baked into the stones. Mainly to seal them up. That way, the honing oil would stay on the top of the stone, where it would do the most good...... I doubt IF I would ever be allowed to use the oven.....and there isn't a heat gun in the house. I used that heavier oil to soak into the stones, as the honing oil would be lighter. So far, very little oil has seeped back out, stones even look better. Letting them sit awhile, then next Sharpening Day, they will get a thorough try out. All I could do was just try this out, cheap stones so I wasn't out much. The oil was for the mower. So, very little outlay. I can save the Vaseline for...other uses.....
October 6, 20169 yr 5 minutes ago, steven newman said: and there isn't a heat gun in the house. .. No hand held hair dryer(s)? If not, pick you up one at next flea market for a buck or two or get economy model heat gun at H-F for under $10.
October 6, 20169 yr 2 minutes ago, steven newman said: My grandBRAT DIVA would just cart it home with her.... Keep it in the dungeon under some other stuff...never find it!
October 6, 20169 yr 10 minutes ago, steven newman said: My grandBRAT DIVA would just cart it home with her.... Just keep it in the dungeon, then she can't find it. I finally had to get a pair of dedicated scissors for the kitchen. My girlfriend, wasn't real keen on the whole shop scissors used in the kitchen idea
October 6, 20169 yr 6 minutes ago, Chips N Dust said: Just keep it in the dungeon, then she can't find it. I finally had to get a pair of dedicated scissors for the kitchen. My girlfriend, wasn't real keen on the whole shop scissors used in the kitchen idea using a sawzall in the kitchen for meal prep really gets them excited..
October 7, 20169 yr Author Ok, stones have set for a day. No oil leaks spotted, stones look good. Have a friend, who contacted the people that make these stones. He got a return call today from them. Was told that they do NOT use petroleum Jelly/ Vaseline in their process. They use an oil fill process. They also recommend against using the Petroleum Jelly/ Vaseline in their stones. Also note: Heated Vaseline in an oven can create a FIRE HAZARD. Even in an electric oven, let alone in a GAS oven.
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