September 17, 20169 yr 11 hours ago, Smallpatch said: Yep, there is always someone who has got to say some thing about a lawsuit. What are you gonna sue, the clamps, the saw, the sunny day, the green grass, what??? The instructions didn't say not to clamp the saw to a post to cut is on a sunny day while the grass was green. Lawsuit time. In other words it seems a law suit can be brought up for any reason.
September 17, 20169 yr 2 hours ago, HandyDan said: The instructions didn't say not to clamp the saw to a post to cut is on a sunny day while the grass was green. Lawsuit time. In other words it seems a law suit can be brought up for any reason. The real problem isn't the idiots bringing the lawsuit, but the idiot judges agreeing with them! John
September 17, 20169 yr Not necessarily the judges! They have to hear the case. It is generally, the juries that hear the case that determine the outcomes and the financial payouts. The defense asks for damages and the jury says, yes or no. Sometimes they award only a portion of what is asked. My ex sat on a workman's comp trial. They proved that the defendant was never hurt and was not entitled to any damages. However, there were still two of the jurors that insisted that he should get something. The "A-hole" lied under oath, tried to commit fraud, wasted the courts and everyone's time AND HE WAS STILL ENTITLED TO SOMETHING! Give me a break. By the way, the judge had him arrested for perjury.
September 17, 20169 yr 13 minutes ago, schnewj said: Not necessarily the judges! They have to hear the case. It is generally, the juries that hear the case that determine the outcomes and the financial payouts. The defense asks for damages and the jury says, yes or no. Sometimes they award only a portion of what is asked. My ex sat on a workman's comp trial. They proved that the defendant was never hurt and was not entitled to any damages. However, there were still two of the jurors that insisted that he should get something. The "A-hole" lied under oath, tried to commit fraud, wasted the courts and everyone's time AND HE WAS STILL ENTITLED TO SOMETHING! Give me a break. By the way, the judge had him arrested for perjury. Tis a shame congress can't/won't do the same.
September 17, 20169 yr Kinda reminds me of ladder on the branch and a chainsaw...... Just sayin........
September 17, 20169 yr Ok, how about we take a more mentor approach on this. Do we know the owner of the image? Can we contact him or her? Perhaps we can help. They may not be that up on par with the safety aspects of carpentry. Also if the person who submitted that image, the person who actually clamped their miter saw up to the post, if they were here in our community, what would you say to him or her? Seriously. I fear that there is a possibility that whoever thought this was the proper way to cut a load bearing post, may someday happen to our friendly forum of woodworkers, and I know we are a compassionate bunch aren't we? So what say you, if they were here today, what would you say to them?
September 17, 20169 yr I think, I would ask also, what are your intentions? Why is there a need to cut the post to begin with, in the middle of the post? Because there are alternative safer ways of doing this, we could help them figure this out. I think what I would do is put a temp support up, remove the post, and cut it as needed, re-insert the post, and remove the temp. But if it absolutely had to be cut with post in place, for some reason not seen in the image, I know we could come up with a smart and safe alternative way to do this.
September 17, 20169 yr I think it would depend on exactly whom was doing it. If it was a friend or acquaintance, I would try to come up with an alternative after understanding the need. But I put a post somewhere here about contractors working unsafely, and I could see one doing such an effort given the contractors we have in this area. If that was the case, I'd just hold my beer and watch....from a safe distance.
September 17, 20169 yr 10 minutes ago, Fred W. Hargis, Jr said: I could see one doing such an effort given the contractors we have in this area. If that was the case, I'd just hold my beer and watch....from a safe distance. Good point Fred.
September 17, 20169 yr "Hey ya'll, watch this. Here, hold my beer". I suspect that the picture is staged. There is really no reason to cut the post, especially in that manner. That little Ryobi isn't going to make it through that 4x without binding. The minute that happens that saw will be stepin' and fetchin' because those whimpy Irwin Kwick clamps just ain't gonna hold. Somebody was just having fun. They didn't get that far with the risers and posts without knowing a thing or two. Nobody who can do what I see in the photo would ever do something as "stupid" as that in real life. It is fun to speculate, though!
September 17, 20169 yr 27 minutes ago, schnewj said: They didn't get that far with the risers and posts without knowing a thing or two. Ya man! I was thinking of that when this was first posted, but it was too much fun reading the commentary.
September 18, 20169 yr I have seen people do stupid crud like that and get hurt. sorry guys but I'd have to sound out and stop it in it's tracks. anybody see the fact that when it gets cut the top of the post is now free to move along with the right side of the saw? I'll bet my set of marples carving chisels and leather case against a rigid table saw I can come up with 400 different ways to make that cut that would be safer. Edited September 18, 20169 yr by DRAGON1 Spellcheck sucks
September 18, 20169 yr 17 hours ago, schnewj said: "Hey ya'll, watch this. Here, hold my beer". I suspect that the picture is staged. There is really no reason to cut the post, especially in that manner. That little Ryobi isn't going to make it through that 4x without binding. The minute that happens that saw will be stepin' and fetchin' because those whimpy Irwin Kwick clamps just ain't gonna hold. Somebody was just having fun. They didn't get that far with the risers and posts without knowing a thing or two. Nobody who can do what I see in the photo would ever do something as "stupid" as that in real life. It is fun to speculate, though! This may be true but you know as well as I do after the picture was taken some one standing there said " well, we came this far plug it in and see if it works". Edited September 18, 20169 yr by DuckSoup
September 18, 20169 yr 5 hours ago, DuckSoup said: This may be true but you know as well as I do after the picture was taken some one standing there said " well, we came this far plug it in and see if it works". Where can I get that shirt?
September 19, 20169 yr I don't think it's staged...saw looks to be plugged in (extension cord runs towards saw) I'm guessing it's railing post and not load bearing... He's looking for a square cut and decided to cut after installing it. I would take him through the process of how to measure from the ground up. He probably couldn't figure out how to accommodate for the depth in the ground...
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