Just ordered one.  Got it with the Dust Extractor.

And got a bunch of abrasives with it from Beaver Industrial

$999 for the sander and  Extractor comes with the power supply.

6" diameter in 5mm orbit ( they sell  8mm and a 2.2mm orbit  sanders too)

 

Like a dummy I managed to  order two sanders.  Can you believe that?  Two at more than half a G each and I still hit CONFIRM. I swear it's  the age.  Growing old is  the one true extreme sport

But two minutes on the phone and they straightened that out.  Pleasant enough to deal with

 

 

 

I was pole sanding  sheetrock  mud and hating it (ohh how I hate it)  and remembering why I hated rebuilding houses so badly.   It's the dust.

Then I realized that I'm going to order one of these sanders to complete the floor ( edging) and stairs  in the room I'm redoing.

So after kicking myself several times I just ordered a sander the DC is supposed to be excellent and  that'll solve for a most despised and loathed problem - - sheetrock  mud dust.

 

HA HA HA  I' will be sanding sheetrock mud dust free.

I may even like it now. 

 

The  dust extractor ( glorified  vacuum)  is  probably the  exact same thing that NILFISK sells for a little less (Nilfisk Attix 30 AS/E) but I couldn't tell about the hose connection. So I spent the money for a branded model

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You must have got one he** of a tax refund this year!

Tax refund?

You are kidding right?

Don't get me going on taxes.

I get real worked up over that.

Mirka Ceros - -  my first impressions. 

First impressions  are always the glossiest aren’t they?  One is stupid with New Tool Lust and that fresh whiff of factory air is intoxicating.   After one has owned a thing  for maybe a year you see the flaws the weaknesses and the things you’d have like to have been done better.

 I can remember the first  happy day with my Triton 3.25 HP router.  A year later I was less enthusiastic.    Crappy threads on the collet, crappy this, and that. I was upset that Triton made such an unsophisticated machine. So I reviewed it after that year.

 

Well I digress:

I didn’t get the Extractor yet  - Fed Ex still has it somewhere in Fly Over America or maybe  it’s having tea with some rich Doctor’s kids in Schenectady  NY.   Well, wherever it is, it ain’t here.

 

So that leaves me hooking it up to my Rigid Shop Vac.  I used Blue Tape to make the connection between the hoses.

 

Power:

There’s oodles of power.  But you don’t know how much power there is until you lean on it. It doesn’t yank you around, it’s smooth, smooth as silk. When you lean on it is doesn’t slow down. 

 

Speeds:

Speeds go up and down depending on whether the paddle is set to variable mode or the user pushes a speed button.  It go from  4 – 10 thousand rpm.  I was shocked at how fast it can go.

I’m doing sheet rock compound right now so I’m using some intermediate speed.   This seems to send less dust out.

 

Pads:

They are Velcro people.  Velcro.  Abranet is the standard that comes with it though I’m sure any Velcro backed pad would  work so long as  it has holes in it for the vacuum.

In sheetrock mud I started out using  80 grit and switched to 100  The pads seem to last a long time as compared to regular paper. 

The pads are not cheap.  Compared to sheet paper and my quarter sheet Porter Cable Speed Blok (my older sanders) the stuff is like  gritty gold but the Abranet pads stand up pretty  well so far as I can tell and I can peel off one and switch grits really fast – really fast - - mere seconds -  and not waste the pad I just removed and swap around at leisure, so  I’m thinking it’s worth the Money.

 

 Ease of use:

Well it’s got a hose & a power cord so there’s that.  But I  have never used a hosed tool before and I gotta say, I’m not finding it much of an inconvenience.   It seems as though the hose is not there until I’m coming down off a latter or stand, then I gotta watch for it.

 

It handles  - - well - - almost intuitively.  PUT THE THING ON THE WORK  BEFORE HITTING POWER and it makes less dust.  If you don’t  - - if you engage power before applying it to the work there’s a puff of dust when it lands.   The thing is powerful enough that it doesn’t stall or stutter when it’s sitting on the work before engaging power.

 

It seems to glide over the work and seems not to be doing anything, but it’s doing plenty.  This machine gets the job done fast, fast, fast.  

 

Dust control:

Flawless. Absolutely marvelously perfectly flawless.    I’m not using the Dust Extractor that comes with it. I’m using a Rigid shopvac.  The sander does a great job of capturing all the dust –

 

I’m sanding Sheetrock mud Lots and lots  of it because the walls are really beat  and if you have ever done this you know what the dust is like.  It’s horrible.  It’s everywhere, it gets in your eyes and hurts, and hair  & thick and nasty, and  spreads throughout the house and you are eating it for weeks  because it creeps into the cabinets and the food - - -  and  - - -  well - - MOMMY~!!!!! 

Yah  but with the Ceros there is no dust.

 

 I’m sanding without a mask - -   and  - - well - - I don’t need one.  There’s no dust.

 

A complaint:

The vacuum hose connection to the sander is a little tricky.  They used the left hand thread of the hose’s spiral.   I thought it was a bit of a cheap out.  On the up side; if the hose splits (it is just plastic)  from wear  at the  junction point you can just shorten the hose by a couple inches and be at it all over again.  So maybe they did think it through. But it just seems a tad cheap.

 

 

 

Worth it?

Well  - - Like I said, I’m just doing sheetrock mud  for now so I’ll  know more when I’m trying to get a fine finish on some pretty wood.  But so far, I’m sold. I ain’t sending it back.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well here's something interesting-

 

http://www.mirka.com/en-US/us/top_menu/News/Mirka-Recalls-Select-CEROS-Sanders/

 

Anyway, is this the model that has the special power supply or does it plug directly into 120v? I saw these when I was at Supergrit the last time. Way out of my tax bracket.

 

Have fun with the dry wall mud sanding.

Yah  it is the  DC model with a PSU.  Mine was issued after the recall.

Well since you have all the stuff, maybe you could just come down and hang and finish some sheetrock for me.

Well since you have all the stuff, maybe you could just come down and hang and finish some sheetrock for me.

 I'll be there in 20 minutes.

Seen nothing but great reviews on this one.

Megan Fitzpatrick of Popular woodworking loves hers. I was reading up on it last week when my Popular Woodworking Mag came in, dream dream! Nice sander Cliff!

By the way, gotta ask, I used to hang, tape and mud drywall years ago, never had to resort to a power sander, I used a pole sander exclusively, leveled the mud nicely, what you got going on there you need a power sander for mud? The mud should be pretty flat to begin with if it was floated properly. Or perhaps you needed the excuse like most of us men to buy a new tool!

 I'll be there in 20 minutes.

 

 

I'll be standing out looking for you!

Seen nothing but great reviews on this one.

Megan Fitzpatrick of Popular woodworking loves hers. I was reading up on it last week when my Popular Woodworking Mag came in, dream dream! Nice sander Cliff!

By the way, gotta ask, I used to hang, tape and mud drywall years ago, never had to resort to a power sander, I used a pole sander exclusively, leveled the mud nicely, what you got going on there you need a power sander for mud? The mud should be pretty flat to begin with if it was floated properly. Or perhaps you needed the excuse like most of us men to buy a new tool!

 

Hmmm  Well  (a) I ain't a mudman - it's a trade skill and I don't possess it.  I can get it on and I  can smooth it out,  but  my results ain't nuthin' like a guy who does it for a living.

So if you are  mudman, and you've seen newbies on the job - - well - -  you know full well the mess I can make.

 

Plus   I ain't taping and mudding joints.  That'd be too easy.  I'm mudding these weird concrete skimmed  walls that have 250 years of damage and wear and foundation movement and pitting and gouges. So there's a heck of a lot of surface area.

 

And of course I needed an excuse.  Any excuse will do. Right?

 

Oh look, there's a leaf in the lawn.  I need a backpack blower.

Oh look,  there's a scratch in the driveway - - I need a  backhoe

It goes on and on.

 

If only I could come up with the right excuse to get a Dolphin HH 65 Helicopter.

I knew it! You got me on the HH 65 though, perhaps you could talk the family into, it's for home security?

I knew it! You got me on the HH 65 though, perhaps you could talk the family into, it's for home security?

 

AWW CMO'N JOHN!!!!

 

Don't you have gutters on the house that need cleaning? or a lightning rod to install?

 

LOVED THE CRITIC CLIFF!!!! ALWAYS NICE TO HAVE A JUDGEMENT CALL FROM SOMEONE'S WHO'S BEEN THERE. !!!!!!!

 

I'm great at mud, almost never having to sand.  But I hate it. I hate going white blind after awhile, lol.

AWW CMO'N JOHN!!!!

 

Don't you have gutters on the house that need cleaning? or a lightning rod to install?

 

LOVED THE CRITIC CLIFF!!!! ALWAYS NICE TO HAVE A JUDGEMENT CALL FROM SOMEONE'S WHO'S BEEN THERE. !!!!!!!

 

I'm great at mud, almost never having to sand.  But I hate it. I hate going white blind after awhile, lol.

Lightening rods, gutters? In So Cal!

Lightening rods, gutters? In So Cal!

C'mon John, Don't ya think you can slide that one past the wifey?

 

Then how about bringing bricks up for chimney repair?

 

Tree trimming?

 

Hanging christmas lights?

 

You have a church peak repair and you need it, lol

 

At your age you should be able to walk an elephant past her with a poker face!!!!

 

( Guilty feeling when you do it is the problem I think) lol

C'mon John, Don't ya think you can slide that one past the wifey?

 

Then how about bringing bricks up for chimney repair?

 

Tree trimming?

 

Hanging christmas lights?

 

You have a church peak repair and you need it, lol

 

At your age you should be able to walk an elephant past her with a poker face!!!!

 

( Guilty feeling when you do it is the problem I think) lol

Ooohh, if only you knew my wife Mike! A danged ant can't crawl into our home without her knowing about it! Plus, I have a horrible poker face.

Been using the daylights out of the sander.

Gotta say, I really, really like it.

It's definitely faster than any other sander I've  used.  The vibration  is minimal.  I can use mine right handed ( I'm a leftie) and the thing doesn't set off the Carpal Tunnel in that hand.

 

I got sick of the  power cord and vacuum hose being separate and having to manage them So I got some  Gorilla Sleeve 1.75"  Min ID and   wrestled it over them so now the hose and power cord are integral.

 

 

I like this sander so well so far that I'm tempted to buy the smaller detail sander too.

 

 

I got sick of the  power cord and vacuum hose being separate and having to manage them So I got some  Gorilla Sleeve 1.75"  Min ID and   wrestled it over them so now the hose and power cord are integral.

That only complaint you have about that sander Cliff seems to be the only complaint most users have about it. Beyond that everybody loves theirs. Thanks for the review, seems like money well spent.

I ordered a  spool of Gorilla sleeve  on the web   And got it on the hose and power  cable together. 

Man that was like wrestling with  a huge python. 

Now I know why people pay a couple hundred for a velcro sipped sleeve

 

Anyway It's all sleeved up to keep the power  cord and  vacuum hose as a unit

https://www.techflex.com/prod_nhn.asp

YA gotta cut the stuff with a hot knife and tape the ends, or else it unravels

 

It's been in the shop for a while now and I've had occasion to use the CEROS on various woods  most recently  some maple.

The thing is very fast.  It takes burn marks out of maple lickedy-split using just 100 grit

The extractor  is showing poor design.  As a dust extractor it's great.  Great design and engineering so far but the body seems made for a different sander or no sander at all really.  It's a converted shop vac with molded parts for the shop vac.  They didn't make new molds specific to the CEROS.  I suppose them spending the several hundred thousand for the injection molds was a bit too much to hope for given as how they probably don't sell lots and lots of extractors.  People buy the sander and jerry-rig their shop vacs or DC to it. 

The thing has places to store vacuum parts Shop Vac that don't come with it. In the back there's a row of tube receivers for a few long  shop vac type tubes

On the top there is a couple of holes  for which  I made wood shafts to hang the hose around.  The thing has no provision for storing the cords or the hose so ya gotta invent them yourself.